homeschoolmom Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jun 17 2004, 07:43 PM'] What do you have to do now? Get married. And how is something not sin if you don't know it is a sin? [/quote] well, I don't think it's a mortal sin anyway... you didn't do it knowingly, right? You didn't say, "well, to heck with the Catholic church, let's get married elsewhere!" No, at the time you were married, you didn't concider yourselves Catholic and in your own eyes, you weren't. (and I'm sure at the time, you didn't care what the Catholic church considered you)... And so, you went into marriage with the full intent of being married-- following what you believed at the time. Now, if you'd KNOWN that the Catholic church still had requirements on you and you'd known that one day you'd return to the Catholic Church and you still went ahead and WILLFULLY disobeyed, then I would say that would be a grave sin. I don't see how you willfully, knowingly disobeyed, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Jun 17 2004, 07:46 PM'] Priests are like doctors. Get a second opinion. [/quote] amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Is Teresa as upset as you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 Agh. I'm just mad now. And nearly in tears out of frustration. (Let's hope Budge or LJ or Bruce don't find this thread right ) This is bad, I know, it part of me is second guessing joining the Church. I mean, I know in the end it has to happen, but AAAAARRRRRGGHHHH!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 Ironic isn't it? For the next month or so Teresa and I cannot be "open to life" until we get married. #*%!&!@#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 It isn't a sin for the reasons HSMom said. You didn't know that you weren't married. You have every reason to think you are. Until you get it cleared up to be safe I wouldn't be yeh. But for the sin to be a sin you have to know that is is wrong and do it of free choice and have the intent to do it or somehting like that. Did you know that it was a sin for you to be "active" in what was in your minds and to the best of your knowedlge a true marriage? I mean if it offends God for us to type the word "Small" but we don't know that it does he won't punishs us for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 We'll be praying for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 yup! what ice said...we will be praying for you two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote]It all comes down to someone baptized in a Catholic Church is bound no matter what to Catholic rules and laws, even if they totally reject the Church. Someone baptized in a Christian non-Catholic Church is not bound to the Church and thus their marriage would be valid. [/quote] I'm afraid that may be correct. I had thought that your marriage was valid, but I had forgotten that you were Catholic first. This is troubling, but don't let it bothet you, Bro. Adam. You didn't know this before. Now you do. I don't know what else to tell you, as I know nothing else about the subject. I would write EWTN if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Now you have two anniversaries to celebrate (this will come in handy in years to come-- hubba hubba... ) In the meantime, cold showers, my friend... edit: Unless you waited for your anniversary and got married again on that day! Then you wouldn't have to try to remember two dates... and you could get married every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 brother adam, can u please explain to me a little more about ur situation like what exactly happened? where did you get married? how could you think ur married and actually not be? that would be helpful ill pray for u tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote]This is bad, I know, it part of me is second guessing joining the Church. I mean, I know in the end it has to happen, but AAAAARRRRRGGHHHH!!!!!! [/quote] Adam, the ultimate question I ask you now is this: would God entrust the Blessed Sacrament to a the Catholic Church if it weren't the same Apostolic Succession begun by Christ? I know that you know the Catholic Church is right. This can either be a stumbling block or a stepping stone. Consider a time of trial as a purification and time to focus on God. But then, I'm sure you've thought of all of that. I'm here for you, bro. God Bless, Raphael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Can he really get married twice though? I mean one was outside of the Church but I thought those were recongizable by the Church. I would ask another priest maybe or the Bishop. Worst case you have to get married again. Not horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote]where did you get married? how could you think ur married and actually not be? [/quote] Marriage between two Catholics is valid. Marriage between two cradle Protestants is valid. The problem arises when one or both parties is a former Catholic. A person who rejects Catholicism is technically in heresy, which invalidates marriage. The question I would ask EWTN is whether Adam and Teresa, having rejected Catholicism at young ages (if I remember correctly) and having been misunderstanding of Church teaching would technically be classified in the group of heretics (I don't like to use that word, by the way). As I understood the rules, you have to be aware of what you are rejecting (i.e. what the Catholic Church actually teaches). That makes me wonder...which is why I suggest asking EWTN after giving very clear specification of what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote]Can he really get married twice though? I mean one was outside of the Church but I thought those were recongizable by the Church. I would ask another priest maybe or the Bishop. [/quote] That's only legit if they were cradle Protestants, not if they left the Church. Also, if the first wasn't valid, then he would be getting remarried. [quote]Worst case you have to get married again. Not horrid. [/quote] Hehe...another reason to go visit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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