Mary's Knight, La Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 any political/social/economic system can be used to cause spiritual and physical harm to people however capitalism seems to offer the most opportunity for correction of errors made e.g. consumers can rebel and put a company out of business *if* enough choose to at the same time i don't see how communism offers that opportunity though i support communism in it's ideal form (e.g. the form in my mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Putnam Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Mary's Knight' date=' La,Jun 22 2004, 05:28 PM']any political/social/economic system can be used to cause spiritual and physical harm to people however capitalism seems to offer the most opportunity for correction of errors made e.g. consumers can rebel and put a company out of business *if* enough choose to at the same time i don't see how communism offers that opportunity though i support communism in it's ideal form (e.g. the form in my mind)[/quote] Least anyone misinterpret what you say here, [i]pure[/i] communism is found in a Catholic religious order! And that is, of course, the "ideal form!" BTW, Louisiana? Have a daughter who lives in Covington, LA. St. Peter's parish, a very active parish with some real serious Catholics there! God bless, PAX Bill+†+ [i]Pillar and Foundation of Truth, the Church.[/i] (1 Tim 3:15) Edited June 22, 2004 by William Putnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Jun 22 2004, 12:03 AM'] . Australia is a more law-filled and protective nation than America will every be the only reason America goes to protect a people is for foriegn policy or political attributes. [/quote] One word.. guffaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) [quote name='jasJis' date='Jun 23 2004, 10:16 AM'] One word.. guffaw! [/quote] Yes and whats the average murder rate in the US? oh about 1 person every 3 minutes or so..whys that? ohh any moron can have a gun. Here no guns, no weapons at all. Murders a day? .65. In a week, at worst. 4-6. Yes..Guffaw..whatever the heck that means. Edited June 23, 2004 by MorphRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Dude, get you facts straight. The US has more people, so of course we would have more murders. You want to compare the murders per capita. Yes, the US has a higher rate, but it's not just because we have guns. We have guns because of the history of the Country. We weren't created in a remote back-water continent with imported prisoners who weren't allowed to have sharp sticks, much less reall arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 And if you didnt allow guns, theyd be a lot less murders. You dont need statistics for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote]Dude, get you facts straight. The US has more people, so of course we would have more murders. You want to compare the murders per capita. Yes, the US has a higher rate, but it's not just because we have guns. We have guns because of the history of the Country. We weren't created in a remote back-water continent with imported prisoners who weren't allowed to have sharp sticks, much less reall arms. [/quote] No comment aside from thats kind of ethnocentric to call Australia back water and remote - both continents had people there long before Britain came along - Aboriginals. Gimme a break, everything as far as Geography goes is relative, and heck, who doesnt want Ocean all around you and nice climatic conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiannii Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 The US is a bit gun happy, a state I hope my country never gets to, because there will be no turning back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiannii Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Then again we seem to follow in the US' footsteps, so who knows...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A knife, brick, or poison will kill somebody just as dead as a gun. Also, your conclusion is purely ancedotal. Provide some statistical evidence. I'll give you some help. Search for 'per-capita murder rate'. You'll see the US is ranked 24th with .04 per 1,000. Analyze the top 35 countries and provide gun laws for each country. Provide the murder rates that are done with a gun versus those committed without a gun. Provide a chart with the percentage of murders committed with a gun and corelate the data with the type of gun laws for the Country. Additionally, to compensate for socio/cultural variances, provide statistics for murders commited by strangers in the commission of a crime and compare with murders commited by a known person that is an act of passion, such as a fight, infedelity, etc. All you've done is provide superficial, knee-jerk opinion, without factual merit and easily refuted with the application of logic and reason. yiannii, what do you mean that the US seems 'gun happy'? Edited June 23, 2004 by jasJis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='yiannii' date='Jun 23 2004, 10:55 PM'] Then again we seem to follow in the US' footsteps, so who knows...LOL [/quote] Everything is. Its disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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