Gabriela Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponsa-Christi Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Actually, one of the deacons at my home parish does own a pharmacy! There is a crucifix right over the main counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Many states make it illegal to refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions on moral grounds. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Many states make it illegal to refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions on moral grounds. Unfortunately. That's what the video says. I thought it was a national law, not a state one...? Not sure. Anyway, if we had Catholic pharmacies, we could argue conscience rights and hopefully get the laws changed so we could buy from pharmacies that don't sell stuff that's against Catholic teaching. There'll always be 500 other places in a city where people could get that stuff, so we wouldn't be hurting anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That's what the video says. I thought it was a national law, not a state one...? Not sure. Anyway, if we had Catholic pharmacies, we could argue conscience rights and hopefully get the laws changed so we could buy from pharmacies that don't sell stuff that's against Catholic teaching. There'll always be 500 other places in a city where people could get that stuff, so we wouldn't be hurting anyone. Yeah, except there are valid reasons for a young teen to have contraception....endometriosis and other bleeding diseases can be helped by hormones. The 'follow your cycle napro' stuff is honestly not helpful to a 13yo in excruciating pain. If there were more Catholic pharmacies we could be stopping women with legit medical needs from getting legit meds. Plan B--that's different there's no legit use for that. But as someone who has a close friend who suffers terribly because of her period....I think it's a heinous act against mercy to flat-out deny hormones that can have a contraceptive result when you have no idea what they are being used for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yeah, except there are valid reasons for a young teen to have contraception....endometriosis and other bleeding diseases can be helped by hormones. The 'follow your cycle napro' stuff is honestly not helpful to a 13yo in excruciating pain. If there were more Catholic pharmacies we could be stopping women with legit medical needs from getting legit meds. Plan B--that's different there's no legit use for that. But as someone who has a close friend who suffers terribly because of her period....I think it's a heinous act against mercy to flat-out deny hormones that can have a contraceptive result when you have no idea what they are being used for. But that's a small minority of people who use birth control, and there would still be hundreds of other pharmacies such a person could fulfill her prescription at. I don't see why one Catholic pharmacy would make a difference to non-Catholics. But it would make a huge difference to Catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Many states make it illegal to refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions on moral grounds. Unfortunately. Excellent opportunity for white martyrdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Depending on the community there aren't 500 other places to get things, is the argument. The other thing is that the Pill itself is a morally neutral bunch of hormones, it can be used by single women to control diseases for instance, it's just that it can also be used for bad things like many meds. When I was getting recurrent ovarian cysts I saw an NFP only Catholic OB and was frustrated that the treatments she could prescribe were identical to conventional BC meds in terms of their mode of action and side effects. The difference was they were not combined into one pill and not intentionally marketed as anti ovulatory (they were though). I was upset because the whole point of treatment from my POV was to keep my fertility as high as possible. The main thing would be the ability to avoid selling Plan B. I wonder if in these laws Plan B is included in the standard contraception category? Edited November 21, 2015 by Maggyie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The main thing would be the ability to avoid selling Plan B. I wonder if in these laws Plan B is included in the standard contraception category? When I moved to Alberta for awhile, Plan B was openly sold along with the other 'family planning' products on the floor of the pharmacies. I think there was a requirement that you had to talk to the pharmacist when buying it, but other than that you could pick up plan b along with throat lozenges and bandages. It was not prescription or even behind the counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Depending on the community there aren't 500 other places to get things, is the argument. The other thing is that the Pill itself is a morally neutral bunch of hormones, it can be used by single women to control diseases for instance, it's just that it can also be used for bad things like many meds. When I was getting recurrent ovarian cysts I saw an NFP only Catholic OB and was frustrated that the treatments she could prescribe were identical to conventional BC meds in terms of their mode of action and side effects. The difference was they were not combined into one pill and not intentionally marketed as anti ovulatory (they were though). I was upset because the whole point of treatment from my POV was to keep my fertility as high as possible. The main thing would be the ability to avoid selling Plan B. I wonder if in these laws Plan B is included in the standard contraception category? Exactly. There are dozens of heroin overdoses every day in America and many of those are fatal. Some drug enforcement teams estimate that as many as 70% of those who move to heroin did so by a legitimately prescribed opiate. Now mind you this is still a small fraction of opiate users, but dependency is a huge risk. Should a pharmacist deny the sale of opiates? And anyone who thinks that female problems are not common has obviously never lived with a female. More than 50% report painful cramping, with 15% having craping so extreme it affects their daily lives. And that's just cramping, not irregular periods, heavy bleeding and a myriad of other really awkward things to talk about on a forum open to male teens. "Contraception" or really, artificial hormones, can be a lifesaver to these women, and often young teens. NAPRO and NFP dr's simply make concoctions that do the same things. Maggyie's also right. Plan B is different...there's never a legitimate use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) That is why we also need Catholic doctors who refuse to prescribe contraceptives. That way the Catholic pharmacies can be more confident in their practice. Edited November 22, 2015 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 That is why we also need Catholic doctors who refuse to prescribe contraceptives. That way the Catholic pharmacies can be more confident in their practice. Hi, Nihil! Where ya been? I've missed you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hi, Nihil! Where ya been? I've missed you! Took a little break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 That is why we also need Catholic doctors who refuse to prescribe contraceptives. That way the Catholic pharmacies can be more confident in their practice. Which has been happening in Calgary and gotten a lot of flak. Good to see you back on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Which has been happening in Calgary and gotten a lot of flak. Good to see you back on here. Oh really? I had not heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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