the protector Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote]That is what the world already has. Our leaders aren't humble, they're proud and they think they have all the authority in the world to do what they want. What the world needs most is legislators who follow God's law in making theirs. [/quote] And how would YOU enforce this? Maybe cameras in televisions? Helicopters with searchlights? I mean, if you are following the law it's not really an invasion of privacy. Only the wicked need to fear. Just don't display any strong emotions, or we'll suspect you are up to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 It's not so much that it needs to be inforced, but rather that people really need to come to an awareness of the sins of themselves. "The sin of the century is the lack of sense of sin." --John Paul II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oik Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 It's awesome that it is banned in some Catholic schools. I pray that all immorality it banned everywhere, secular and religious. As for legislating morality, I pray they do. Remember when adultery was against the law? Too bad our country doesn't uphold the law. The bottom line is that the Vagina monologues is just like all "artistics expressions" that don't speak the Truth. There have been thousands of plays, books, paintings, songs, etc. and there will be more. They will be destroyed and the only thing that will last in the Truth, the universal Truth. Who built universities? Who built hospitals? Who emphasized education? Civilization? It is a wonderful effort to help the sick and the poor and the abused, but why? That is what counts. Even pagans (non-believers) can love their own. I agree with the whole our catholic children should write their own monologues. I don't think censorship is bad or wrong or incorrect. God has written into our being a censorship intrinsic to our nature. God already knew our sins before all mankind was created. He prescribed the first act of censorship in the garden of eden "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat." And basically Satan comes on the scene and says, Yo eve, don't sweat it, the fruit is good to eat. So they both commit the first act of "artistic expression." The problem with censorship is that the philosophy of relativism has reached it. Censorship is now other people taking a way my "right" to freedom, or my right to commit sins that are "legal." Universal Truth has no room for these explainations, philosophies or theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 (edited) [quote]Who built universities? Who built hospitals? Who emphasized education? Civilization?[/quote] [color=green] JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!![/color] Edited June 18, 2004 by crusader1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenaBobba Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Hi Apollo, Thanks for clarifying. That joke went right over my head. I'm an idiot. LOL. God bless, Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenaBobba Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 [quote name='crusader1234' date='Jun 18 2004, 04:43 AM'] [color=green] JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!!JESUITS!!!![/color] [/quote] AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Rich, that's wicked funny! God bless, Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I saw the monologues performed in London, in one of the largest venues which was packed. Not all of the monologues are performed in every performance - I don't recall the one with the rape of the 13 year old girl being 'performed'. Is there such a thing as lesbian rape under US law? I don't think it even exists in the UK as there is no age of consent for lesbians. At the end of the evening of the performance I saw, people were asked to stand if they had been or knew a woman who had been raped or had experienced sexual abuse - nearly everyone in the theatre stood. It was a incredibly sad moment. The Rape crisis centre in London at the time had no funding and was operating a telephone contact line only at certain times during the day which was staffed entirely by volunteers. Money raised at the performance went to rape crisis centres. I certainly don't think the Monologues are suitable material for a school - though there is an argument that young people see and read enough about sex generally in the media that probably there is nothing in the Monologues that would be shocking to them! Equally I don't think the Monologues should be 'banned' from being performed in theatres where adults can choose to buy a ticket and see the play if they wish. The argument of censorship is very difficult - there are clear things which I think should not be shown, but who gets to make the judgement? In the UK the decision was made under the censorship laws to give The Passion of Christ an 18 certificate and there was some debate about whether it should be allowed to go on general release at all at first. When it comes to Catholic schools and colleges, I absolutely believe that the Church has the right to decide what gets shown or performed in those 'venues' and has the right to say no to anything which it feels isn't appropriate. The measure of what happens in those establishments should be the moral standards which the church herself has set, otherwise we are open to criticism of hypocrisy, and personally I think if people aren't happy with that then they have a perfect right to send their child to another establishment. They know the deal when they sign up to send their child to a Catholic school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenaBobba Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Hi Ellenita, That was a good post. I don't agree with how some funding goes to Planned Parenthood or to rape centers that provide abortions. I agree with you regarding censorship. I don't think (and I could be wrong; admittedly, my mind isn't made up on censorship) that "The Vagina Monologues" should be censored by the government or anything, but I certainly don't think it should be shown at Catholic schools. The play is pretty immoral, so it should stay far, far away from Catholic schools. I think Catholic schools have a right (and an obligation) to prohibit the play. I'm 100% sure about that. God bless, Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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