Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 no not phish sticks. A lynch mob. If you come in here spouting heresy - and make no mistake that is exactly what you are doing - we have a responsibility and obligation to cut down your errors quickly and efficiently so that you do not lead others down your path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 tab'le, you sound a bit off your rocker. I hope you're doing OK, but you're saying strange things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 no not phish sticks. A lynch mob. Which you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 no not phish sticks. A lynch mob. he again neither states nore to me even hints that the Magesterium is infallible, directly show me the bit that you think does this. Highlite it. Further, all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment, or by her ordinary and universal magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed. And since, without faith, it is impossible to please God, and to attain to the fellowship of his children, therefore without faith no one has ever attained justification, nor will any one obtain eternal life unless he shall have persevered in faith unto the end. And, that we may be able to satisfy the obligation of embracing the true faith, and of constantly persevering in it, God has instituted the Church through his only-begotten Son, and has bestowed on it manifest notes of that institution, that it may be recognized by all men as the guardian and teacher of the revealed Word; for to the Catholic Church alone belong all those many and admirable tokens which have been divinely established for the evident credibility of the Christian faith. Nay, more, the Church by itself, with its marvelous extension, its eminent holiness, and its inexhaustible fruitfulness in every good thing, with its Catholic unity and its invincible stability, is a great and perpetual motive of credibility, and an irrefutable witness of its own divine mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 no not phish sticks. A lynch mob. Pffft. This has to be one of the calmest lynch mobs in the history of lynch mobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I do not see how that can be read otherwise. If reading comprehension is an issue for you Tab, and honestly I think it is one issue among many, just be up front about it and we can try to explain it in simpler terms. Edited July 19, 2015 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Are you all interpreting or these documents for yourself ? If so you need to take into serious consideration that you could be wrong even if you have a theology degree, though please state if you do and i will take you more seriously but even than you are not a part of the magesterium and i am not to bow down to you particularly though i am taking into serious consideration and prayer all you are saying and revealing. Further, all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment, or by her ordinary and universal magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed. And since, without faith, it is impossible to please God, and to attain to the fellowship of his children, therefore without faith no one has ever attained justification, nor will any one obtain eternal life unless he shall have persevered in faith unto the end. And, that we may be able to satisfy the obligation of embracing the true faith, and of constantly persevering in it, God has instituted the Church through his only-begotten Son, and has bestowed on it manifest notes of that institution, that it may be recognized by all men as the guardian and teacher of the revealed Word; for to the Catholic Church alone belong all those many and admirable tokens which have been divinely established for the evident credibility of the Christian faith. Nay, more, the Church by itself, with its marvelous extension, its eminent holiness, and its inexhaustible fruitfulness in every good thing, with its Catholic unity and its invincible stability, is a great and perpetual motive of credibility, and an irrefutable witness of its own divine mission. I agree with absolutely everything you just stated, still doesn't prove to me that the magesterium is infallible. the i agree with everyhting you just stated was meant to appear at the end of my last post, either bug or hacker problem I do not see how that can be read otherwise. If reading comprehension is an issue for you Tab, and honestly I think it is one issue among many, just be up front about it and we can try to explain it in simpler terms. no i understand all the catholic jargon nihil, i am a christian. Please refrain from trying to stomp on me and continue the discussion people. Relax really. Edited July 19, 2015 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I do not see how that can be read otherwise. If reading comprehension is an issue for you Tab, and honestly I think it is one issue among many, just be up front about it and we can try to explain it in simpler terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 and nihil by the way you have mis quoted me, i never said you are in heresy, the words where " perhaps in heresy" be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 and nihil by the way you have mis quoted me, i never said you are in heresy, the words where " perhaps in heresy" be careful. I do not care what you said. You are the one making heretical statements. I know I am not. Are you all interpreting or these documents for yourself ? If so you need to take into serious consideration that you could be wrong even if you have a theology degree, though please state if you do and i will take you more seriously but even than you are not a part of the magesterium and i am not to bow down to you particularly though i am taking into serious consideration and prayer all you are saying and revealing. I agree with absolutely everything you just stated, still doesn't prove to me that the magesterium is infallible. the i agree with everyhting you just stated was meant to appear at the end of my last post, either bug or hacker problem no i understand all the catholic jargon nihil, i am a christian. Please refrain from trying to stomp on me and continue the discussion people. Relax really. So you agree that things which are handed down by the Church as divinely revealed by her ordinary Magisterium are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith? Further, all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment, or by her ordinary and universal magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 I do not care what you said. You are the one making heretical statements. I know I am not. relax darling, perhaps i shouldn't of said possible heresy. That was a bit harsh, but i had to illuminate the seriousness in my heart and mind of both these matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 relax darling, perhaps i shouldn't of said possible heresy. That was a bit harsh, but i had to illuminate the seriousness in my heart and mind of both these matters Irrelevant. As I said, I know I have not said anything heretical, whereas I know that you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) you don't know i have because you are not a part of the magesterium, as are none of you in fact. Though you could perhaps assume, that is ok. I turn the other cheek. You people have lynched me many times, i'm used to it. Edited July 19, 2015 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 you don't know i have because you are not a part of the magesterium, as are none of you in fact. What do you care if I am the magisterium or not? You think the magisterium is fallible. Further, all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment, or by her ordinary and universal magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 Just because i don't believe the magesterium is infallible doesn't mean i dont still believe that the magesterium is a higher authority than any of you, in fact the highest authority on matters of faith and morals on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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