superblue Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 more reasons not to be a Catholic voting democrat http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/07/jimmy-carter-gay-marriage_n_7744390.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 Feel free to add more if ya find any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I think this is at the very core of what the democrats really want to do with this country: eradicate true Christianity and replace it with a watered down, one-size-fits-all cult. Meanwhile the churches that remain true to the teachings of Christ will be labeled "bigots" and persecuted by the government. Democrats have done a successful job of slowly brainwashing the populace with their liberal ideologies. Not because they themselves believe in these things, but to stay in power. It's all about staying in power. Hilary would be a nightmare for this country, even worse than hussein... http://www.christianpost.com/news/hillary-clinton-religious-beliefs-have-to-be-changed-about-abortion-138179/ I can predict that more than half of the parishioners in every Catholic parish in my area will vote for this woman... I still see all the "obama/biden" stickers on bumpers in the Church parking lot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Where are the chill pills so we can start tossing them out by the barrel full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Basilisa Marie Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's nice and all, but are there any reasons FOR being a Catholic voting Republican? I mean other than the lip service they all pay to pro-life issues? And by pro-life issues I mean abortion, because they don't seem to care too much about other life issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's nice and all, but are there any reasons FOR being a Catholic voting Republican? I mean other than the lip service they all pay to pro-life issues? And by pro-life issues I mean abortion, because they don't seem to care too much about other life issues? Exactly. For our local elections, a voting guide was put out by a pro-life group. Every single race had a statement similar to, "this candidate is endorsed by LGBQT groups so vote for the other one." Nothing about why I should actually support the other candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am a registered republican because as a party they favor smaller government. There may be no giant policy changes when a republican is elected, but I know that when the small, daily-life issues come up, if a republican is in charge it is far more likely there will be a smaller-government “solution” identified. If a democrat is in charge, they are far more likely to find a bigger government “solution.” I really believe the number of issues that can ONLY be resolved by either a small government or big government response is quite small. The vast majority of things that come up day to day can be addressed with either approach and have reasonably positive outcomes. Jesus said the poor will always be with us, and in theory the pie should always get larger as we find more people to serve and ways to serve them. But the on-the-ground reality is that more government has meant less room for civil society – sectarian and non-sectarian nonprofits and volunteer groups to do their work. An unusually vibrant civil society is one factor responsible for the success of American democracy compared to similar experiments (e.g., France, currently on republic #5). There is also the fact, known full well to any Christian student of politics, that ultimately the government has no use for the poor. This is regardless of the good intentions of the people who work in government. The government grows in order to serve the poor, until one day it is large enough to turn and devour them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's nice and all, but are there any reasons FOR being a Catholic voting Republican? I mean other than the lip service they all pay to pro-life issues? And by pro-life issues I mean abortion, because they don't seem to care too much about other life issues? Don't believe that is the point of the OP. I can't speak for anyone, but I believe neither of Dems nor Reps offer a viable candidate. I can't stand the GOP, but the Dems do disgust me much more. I hate voting season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's nice and all, but are there any reasons FOR being a Catholic voting Republican? I mean other than the lip service they all pay to pro-life issues? And by pro-life issues I mean abortion, because they don't seem to care too much about other life issues? hmmm.... except this thread isn't about the Republican party...you can start a new one on how evil they are and throw in some examples... I know they aren't angels either. I don't like them much myself, but choose the lesser of the evils (even though many Catholics think that in itself is not moral.) Until we ever get a viable 3rd party going in this country, I'll do my best to keep democrats out of power. in the meantime, another example as to why Catholics shouldn't vote for the democratic party: An article straight from the Democratic Party's website: http://www.txdemocrats.org/press/texas-democrats-applaud-supreme-courts-decision-to-put-texas-abortion-law-on-hold They want to destroy this bill that restricts abortions on fetuses 20 weeks and older. It's regulations on abortion clinics has closed down the majority of them here in Texas. (Yay!) The "lip service" has been backed up with action! And yes, Republicans may need to work on other "pro-life" issues, but I think in Texas, at least, our republican party has done a great job of fighting the democratic party's special interest group and benefactor, Planned Parenthood, and kept them in check (because we know they don't work for the poor, they hurt and kill the poor.) Now if only the Catholic Church would do a better job of catechizing its peeps so that abortion can one day become a thing of the past. It was never the government's business to get into the abortion business... just as it has gotten into the marriage business. We need a smaller government, democrats want a bigger government, as lillabett says, to devour us all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Speaking strictly theoretically, one choice being unacceptable does not force us to choose something else unacceptable, albeit less so. Practically speaking it falls on us to determine if any of our choices are acceptableacceptable, if so why, and if not what our next move should be. Prudence plays a great role too, because as rational people in such a difficult topic some disagreements are inevitable and probably healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) I am a registered republican because as a party they favor smaller government. There may be no giant policy changes when a republican is elected, but I know that when the small, daily-life issues come up, if a republican is in charge it is far more likely there will be a smaller-government “solution” identified. If a democrat is in charge, they are far more likely to find a bigger government “solution.” I really believe the number of issues that can ONLY be resolved by either a small government or big government response is quite small. The vast majority of things that come up day to day can be addressed with either approach and have reasonably positive outcomes. Jesus said the poor will always be with us, and in theory the pie should always get larger as we find more people to serve and ways to serve them. But the on-the-ground reality is that more government has meant less room for civil society – sectarian and non-sectarian nonprofits and volunteer groups to do their work. An unusually vibrant civil society is one factor responsible for the success of American democracy compared to similar experiments (e.g., France, currently on republic #5). There is also the fact, known full well to any Christian student of politics, that ultimately the government has no use for the poor. This is regardless of the good intentions of the people who work in government. The government grows in order to serve the poor, until one day it is large enough to turn and devour them. I skimmed the top and bottom and read "I am a registered republican...something something...eating poor people." Gave me a mild laugh Edited July 9, 2015 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superblue Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 I find it more disgusting on how one claim the Catholic title, vote for a party that funds abortions, and assisted suicides , sides with Iran instead of helping Israel , and does more to under mind, and devalue basic human dignity while praising their own glorious knowledge of how wonderful they are at coming up with ways to theoretically solve everyones problem. I don't rip harder on the republicant party, because between the two, they are small potatoes in comparison of the damage being done not just to the country but globally. Globally, when ISIS is allowed to run rampant, when Americans and Mexicans have died in the Fast and Furious scandal, and more, and the filth that holds no one accountable. And all anyone can do is say, oh, just more over dramatic ranting. This is indeed a cult that is growing, to try and replace the Chruch not just destroy our Constitution and our Republic. It is To the Republic for which it stands, ( not the democracy ) I still can't figure out why politicians on either side use the word democracy. someone try and elaborate on that misnomer. But on the plus side, if there is ever a physical revolution to vanquish the sickos in the abortion party, and chase out the remaining fatcats on both sides, all they would be able to do is run an hide and call for help... they have no spine what so ever to do anything physical . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 That's nice and all, but are there any reasons FOR being a Catholic voting Republican? I mean other than the lip service they all pay to pro-life issues? And by pro-life issues I mean abortion, because they don't seem to care too much about other life issues? If you're talking about the establishment RINO crony capitalists currently "leading" the GOP (think McConnell, McCain, Boehner, Jeb Bush, etc., etc., etc.), then the honest answer is "not a hell of a lot." But I could easily give a thousand and one reasons (if I had time) for why we should vote for a genuine, principled conservative (as opposed to simply a member of the Republican party). We need to end the days of lawless, ever-growing government, which blatantly violates the constitution, and ignores its restraints on power, as well as courts which effectively re-write the law to enforce a socially liberal agenda opposed to our faith (think Roe v. Wade and the recent "gay marriage" ruling) rather than uphold the constitution. We need to stop endlessly printing and borrowing into bankruptcy to spend on ever-increasing government programs and ever-expanding bureaucracy, and get the government off the backs of small business owners, farmers, and ranchers, stop job-killing regulations . . . and, well, you get the point. Conservatives need to get involved early at the grass-roots level, and rally around a solid conservative candidate, rather than do nothing, then sit back and beesh when the GOP establishment picks for us another loser to run against Queen Hillary. We need to stop simply going by the Party brand, and look at individual candidates and their actual positions and records. This site, https://www.conservativereview.com/, rates politicians and candidates based on their actual records, rates them, and gives the reasons for their ratings. It's a good way to tell the real conservatives from the many phonies. (They make you sign up for an account, but it's free, and they don't spam you.) And, Basilia, if you don't mind me asking, do you vote Democrat? If so, what are you're reasons FOR voting that way? Frankly, a lot of Catholics need to get over their sentimental attachment to the Party of abortion, sodomy, and socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't regularly vote for Republicans or Democrats on a regular basis - one of the benefits of living in Washington State is that I don't have to register with either party to vote in primaries and whatnot. I generally like my Republican Representative, and lately think it's more important to vote for pro-life congressmen because those are the people who can have more of a direct impact on promoting life issues. So far I've never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, but I'm not totally against it depending on how much they support vs pay lip service to various important issues (especially life issues). I voted third party in the last presidential election. So mostly I asked the question because I'm genuinely curious about what really draws serious Catholics to Republicans beyond being pro-life. I know which candidate(s) I like right now, but that might change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Frankly, a lot of Catholics need to get over their sentimental attachment to the Party of abortion, sodomy, and socialism. A lot of Catholics also need to get over their sentimental attachment to the Party of greed, warmongering, and intolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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