Credo in Deum Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Miles' getting frequent flyer miles. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Be considerate of what you talk about on a plane or in an airport -- flying can be a nerve wracking experience for anyone, plus staff have to take a lot of things seriously -- so needless to say, don't joke about committing a crime, crashing planes, and of course -- bombs or terrorism. If you're nervous about flying and need a laugh, read this gem (some language but mostly just the A-word regarding the buttocks.) http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/03/seat-29e.html Not the best advise, for several reasons. It's slightly malevolent. It's discourteous to other passengers who follow the rules and can't find enough space for their carry-on because other people bring more than they are allowed. If you get an airline employee in a bad mood you will end up having to leave your bag or pay the excess baggage fee and there will be nothing you can do about it. You can bring two bags on, but one of them has to be small enough to fit under the seat in front of you. If you must, just do that. Agreed....in my experience, airlines are most certainly willing to deal with drama over an extra bag. Maybe they're a bit more stringent with international travel as opposed to domestic, but I've seen this many times. Just a few months ago some American had an extra bag and rather than let him just bring it on, all it did was cause a series of arguments between his group and the staff boarding the plane, it caused delay and everyone glared at him like he was an idiot. All it did was make everyone mad and he ended up not being allowed to board the flight anyway. His sense of entitlement just caused a bad situation not just for himself but also his friends who had to decide whether or not to stay with him or board the flight. Edited July 3, 2015 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Not the best advise, for several reasons. It's slightly malevolent. It's discourteous to other passengers who follow the rules and can't find enough space for their carry-on because other people bring more than they are allowed. If you get an airline employee in a bad mood you will end up having to leave your bag or pay the excess baggage fee and there will be nothing you can do about it. You can bring two bags on, but one of them has to be small enough to fit under the seat in front of you. If you must, just do that. 1. Yes, this I admitted up front* 2. Nah -- there won't be an extra carry-on space taken. Per federal regulations against more than one carry-on, the extra bag will be checked gateside and put in the belly of the plane with other checked bags. Its presence will in no way effect available carry-on space for other passengers 3. You will get charged for the extra bag 100% for sure if you check it at the ticket counter. If you wait till you get to the gate 9 times out of 10 they will check it for free just because they are in a hurry and are grateful you are not pitching a fit about wanting to carry everything on. 90% of the time they are begging people to check even their one piece of carry-on luggage because they want to save space. *At the conventions (yes these exist) the airlines have indicated they are aware of this loophole. They have chosen not to close it. It is almost a wink wink to people who are smart enough to run the tables on them. I say, play on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NadaTeTurbe Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I am most displeased. I was originally scheduled to fly in a big plane, but due to the flight cancellation I am going to fly in an ERJ and an E75, which are the Priuses of the plane world. I hate small planes. Allow me to say that again with proper annotation: I. Hate. Small. Planes. I am not a happy panda right now. no, more seriously, don't worry. Bon voyage ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Be considerate of what you talk about on a plane or in an airport -- flying can be a nerve wracking experience for anyone, plus staff have to take a lot of things seriously -- so needless to say, don't joke about committing a crime, crashing planes, and of course -- bombs or terrorism. If you're nervous about flying and need a laugh, read this gem (some language but mostly just the A-word regarding the buttocks.) http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/03/seat-29e.html Agreed....in my experience, airlines are most certainly willing to deal with drama over an extra bag. Maybe they're a bit more stringent with international travel as opposed to domestic, but I've seen this many times. Just a few months ago some American had an extra bag and rather than let him just bring it on, all it did was cause a series of arguments between his group and the staff boarding the plane, it caused delay and everyone glared at him like he was an idiot. All it did was make everyone mad and he ended up not being allowed to board the flight anyway. His sense of entitlement just caused a bad situation not just for himself but also his friends who had to decide whether or not to stay with him or board the flight. They will give you drama about carrying on an extra bag. In the US and other places I assume the number of carry on pieces is limited by federal law. That's big boy prison. So they will give you drama about carrying on another bag. 9 times out of 10 they will not give you drama about checking a bag at the gate. They will say "give it to me!!!!" The worst that happens to you is you will be charged for a checked bag. You would have been charged for the checked bag anyway if you checked it at the counter. So honestly, why not go for it. This is a no-lose situation for clever passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 ssssshhh lilllabettt! quit spoiling the baggage secret! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 1. Yes, this I admitted up front* 2. Nah -- there won't be an extra carry-on space taken. Per federal regulations against more than one carry-on, the extra bag will be checked gateside and put in the belly of the plane with other checked bags. Its presence will in no way effect available carry-on space for other passengers 3. You will get charged for the extra bag 100% for sure if you check it at the ticket counter. If you wait till you get to the gate 9 times out of 10 they will check it for free just because they are in a hurry and are grateful you are not pitching a fit about wanting to carry everything on. 90% of the time they are begging people to check even their one piece of carry-on luggage because they want to save space. *At the conventions (yes these exist) the airlines have indicated they are aware of this loophole. They have chosen not to close it. It is almost a wink wink to people who are smart enough to run the tables on them. I say, play on. They will give you drama about carrying on an extra bag. In the US and other places I assume the number of carry on pieces is limited by federal law. That's big boy prison. So they will give you drama about carrying on another bag. 9 times out of 10 they will not give you drama about checking a bag at the gate. They will say "give it to me!!!!" The worst that happens to you is you will be charged for a checked bag. You would have been charged for the checked bag anyway if you checked it at the counter. So honestly, why not go for it. This is a no-lose situation for clever passengers. Honestly, it strongly strikes me as part of the culture of entitlement. "Look at how clever I am! I can game the system. I deserve special treatment and all these poor rubes around me can just deal with the limitations imposed by their own lack of intelligence." Entitlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I am now on the second flight from Chicago to Detroit. Michael Voris is picking me up personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Huzzah Miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Honestly, it strongly strikes me as part of the culture of entitlement. "Look at how clever I am! I can game the system. I deserve special treatment and all these poor rubes around me can just deal with the limitations imposed by their own lack of intelligence." Entitlement. Listen, you. THERE IS NO RULE against carrying more than one bag through security. I 100% follow the rules. And I know my rights. Finding a way to follow the rules while getting the most bonus points is the American way. It's called life-hacking. The life-hacking spirit is how come we invented flying to begin with. And computers and the internet and the light-bulb etc. I found a smarter way of doing the airport. Sad panda that you didn't think of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Listen, you. THERE IS NO RULE against carrying more than one bag through security. I 100% follow the rules. And I know my rights. Finding a way to follow the rules while getting the most bonus points is the American way. It's called life-hacking. The life-hacking spirit is how come we invented flying to begin with. And computers and the internet and the light-bulb etc. I found a smarter way of doing the airport. Sad panda that you didn't think of it too. Sure. Still sounds like entitlement to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 No, of course there's no rule against it (legally), but many carriers have rules against it, admittedly for some of them, purely on profit reasons. That being said, there are numerous flights here, where I've seen people trying to carry-on full sized checked luggage, and then argue with the rep if it can fit in the sizer or not. Many of the planes, especially the small ones, have overhead storage that is slightly larger than the sizers, so if there's less than a full flight, I can absolutely see why people try to chance it. But if you're flying between major cities during peak hours, it's just inconsiderate - and holds up everyone else while arguing or just with several people 'door-checking' with a flight attendant. So sure, it's not illegal, but I'm still probably going to glare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 No, of course there's no rule against it (legally), but many carriers have rules against it, admittedly for some of them, purely on profit reasons. That being said, there are numerous flights here, where I've seen people trying to carry-on full sized checked luggage, and then argue with the rep if it can fit in the sizer or not. Many of the planes, especially the small ones, have overhead storage that is slightly larger than the sizers, so if there's less than a full flight, I can absolutely see why people try to chance it. But if you're flying between major cities during peak hours, it's just inconsiderate - and holds up everyone else while arguing or just with several people 'door-checking' with a flight attendant. So sure, it's not illegal, but I'm still probably going to glare. why am I having such a hard time communicating this concept. this tip is not designed to get you an extra carry on bag or an extra large carry on bag. Do you understand. The extra bag you are taking through security does not go into overhead storage. It is not carry on. There is a federal law against more than one carry on. It is designed to get you a bag checked (and stored in the belly of the plane with other checked luggage, huge trunks, etc.) without paying the checked baggage fee. the airlines 100% (the american ones anyway) DO NOT have a rule against it. They are aware of this loophole. They have not summoned the will to close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 why am I having such a hard time communicating this concept. this tip is not designed to get you an extra carry on bag or an extra large carry on bag. Do you understand. The extra bag you are taking through security does not go into overhead storage. It is not carry on. There is a federal law against more than one carry on. It is designed to get you a bag checked (and stored in the belly of the plane with other checked luggage, huge trunks, etc.) without paying the checked baggage fee. the airlines 100% (the american ones anyway) DO NOT have a rule against it. They are aware of this loophole. They have not summoned the will to close it. I kinda get what you're saying, but I'm starting to think that there must be some difference between Canadian and American airlines. For most flights, we're allowed 1 personal bag (a purse, backpack, or small laptop bag) and 1 carry-on (up to regular carryon size, but I'll usually have a backpack as my second bag), then 1 checked bag. What I see a lot of people doing is claiming their checked size luggage is carry-on size. Sometimes, I can't blame them, because some carriers have different sizes than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 its a bit off topic and is a spoof of actual baggage policies that were changed for the better about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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