PhuturePriest Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Yesterday for Pentecost. Directly after having gone to a Novus Ordo. Very much incense. So Latin. 100% lost, 100% satisfied. There were of course things I didn't particularly like due to it being so different from the liturgy I am used to, but in all I very much enjoyed it. The Mass was very pompous (in a good way) due to the occasion, and even the altar boys had on white gloves for the Mass, which was pretty amesome. I also went to confession and had a Latin absolution, which was baller. I was very confused when the priest interrupted me as I started my confession, asking if I was married. It went something like this: Me: Bless me Father, for I have sinned, it was been five days since-- Priest: Are you married? Me: What? Priest: Are you married? Ordained? Single? Me: ...Uh... single, Father. I appreciated that he stayed in the confessional up until five minutes before Mass, which is a type of devotion to confession that you don't normally see in a typical Novus Ordo parish (At least in this area, anyway.) A priest had to walk up to the confessional and knock loudly on the door to get him out of there so Mass could begin on time, which of course it didn't, but I don't think anyone minded. Edited May 25, 2015 by PhuturePriest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 I do feel as if I should talk about the atmosphere of the parish. When I walked in and saw all the parishioners, went to confession, and the rest of that jazz, I couldn't help but feel incredibly Catholic. Which is not to say that Novus Ordo parishes/Masses are not Catholic or are somehow less Catholic, but the atmosphere of the whole experience was definitely more brazenly Catholic than any other place I had gone to. It was all incredibly Catholic in nature and feeling, and I felt as if I had taken a time portal back to a Kansas parish in 1942. It was an incredible experience, and I plan to go again. But of course, I still attend the Novus Ordo daily, I plan to continue doing so, and I do not intend to give the impression that I'm in any way a Tridentine superiorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Philosopher Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I also went to a Tridentine Mass yesterday. In spite of the fact that I regularly attend a Novus Ordo, I feel more familiar with the extraordinary form, as it is the form I've served in (as acolyte and thurifer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Since I moved I've only been able to get to the Trid once in a while, and I miss it enormously. But we've got High Mass on Saturday, so there's that to look forward to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardegaulois Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 "When I walked in and saw all the parishioners, went to confession, and the rest of that jazz, I couldn't help but feel incredibly Catholic." That's why we need so much more of this. So many of the faithful, so imbued in the surrounding secular world as we all are, have lost the sense of being Catholic as distinct from that world. Why are many perhaps well-meaning but wrongheaded clerics and prelates so desperate to appropriate the passing trends and fashions of the world then? It just breeds more self-hating Catholics. Heaven knows we have enough of those... It pains me to think that there are people out there, some of them in very high places, who are actively hostile to such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Yesterday for Pentecost. Directly after having gone to a Novus Ordo. Very much incense. So Latin. 100% lost, 100% satisfied. There were of course things I didn't particularly like due to it being so different from the liturgy I am used to, but in all I very much enjoyed it. The Mass was very pompous (in a good way) due to the occasion, and even the altar boys had on white gloves for the Mass, which was pretty amesome. I also went to confession and had a Latin absolution, which was baller. I was very confused when the priest interrupted me as I started my confession, asking if I was married. It went something like this: Me: Bless me Father, for I have sinned, it was been five days since-- Priest: Are you married? Me: What? Priest: Are you married? Ordained? Single? Me: ...Uh... single, Father. I appreciated that he stayed in the confessional up until five minutes before Mass, which is a type of devotion to confession that you don't normally see in a typical Novus Ordo parish (At least in this area, anyway.) A priest had to walk up to the confessional and knock loudly on the door to get him out of there so Mass could begin on time, which of course it didn't, but I don't think anyone minded. Thanks for sharing your experience! I went to Latin Mass too. As a convert when I started going to the Traditional Latin Mass I also felt like I was someplace very Catholic. Its hard to explain... I mostly read old books during my conversion and still do. Being there was like experiencing the spirituality of these books... The statues, incense, chant, lace, veils, - it wasn't just aesthetic but reminded me of the devotions and Saints I had read about. I ended up moving near to an FSSP parish and that is where I go daily. When I visit my family I try to go to the Latin Mass in a nearby city. I have to say its where I feel most at home. I go to Novus Ordo if I can't go to the Traditional Latin Mass but there's something about the Latin Mass that draws me back and I miss the spirituality of it when I can't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Thanks for sharing your experience! I went to Latin Mass too. As a convert when I started going to the Traditional Latin Mass I also felt like I was someplace very Catholic. Its hard to explain... I mostly read old books during my conversion and still do. Being there was like experiencing the spirituality of these books... The statues, incense, chant, lace, veils, - it wasn't just aesthetic but reminded me of the devotions and Saints I had read about. I ended up moving near to an FSSP parish and that is where I go daily. When I visit my family I try to go to the Latin Mass in a nearby city. I have to say its where I feel most at home. I go to Novus Ordo if I can't go to the Traditional Latin Mass but there's something about the Latin Mass that draws me back and I miss the spirituality of it when I can't go. I reverted to the Faith in 2005 and always felt something was off until I went to my first Latin Mass in 2007. Many people describe an experience where they KNOW this IS the Mass. I myself was very poorly catechized but something connected in a spiritual and experiential way. I knew I was Roman Catholic and that this was the Roman Mass. It took me a very long time to make sense of my experience because I could not explain how it fit in with everything that happened since Vatican II. If the Papacy endorses the radical reform of the Tridentine mass there must be something I'm missing, or so I told myself. Of course in the end I realized I never fully understood Papal authority and that I was behaving more like an ultramontanist than right practicing Roman Catholic. The Liturgy is living Tradition in the most profound and primary way, and it's very unfortunate that we Latins forgot this, but fortunately our Eastern brothers never forgot and there is now a movement to restore all things back in proper order, and this all for the greater glory of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 The Solemn High Mass was regarded as the ordinary form of worship for millenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarysLittleFlower Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I reverted to the Faith in 2005 and always felt something was off until I went to my first Latin Mass in 2007. Many people describe an experience where they KNOW this IS the Mass. I myself was very poorly catechized but something connected in a spiritual and experiential way. I knew I was Roman Catholic and that this was the Roman Mass. It took me a very long time to make sense of my experience because I could not explain how it fit in with everything that happened since Vatican II. If the Papacy endorses the radical reform of the Tridentine mass there must be something I'm missing, or so I told myself. Of course in the end I realized I never fully understood Papal authority and that I was behaving more like an ultramontanist than right practicing Roman Catholic. The Liturgy is living Tradition in the most profound and primary way, and it's very unfortunate that we Latins forgot this, but fortunately our Eastern brothers never forgot and there is now a movement to restore all things back in proper order, and this all for the greater glory of God. I still remember my first Traditional Latin Mass it was in a college chapel and it was said by a visiting FSSP priest I think. My friends and I were late, I was distracted, we were at the side somewhere with no missal or any clue about what's going on and what part of the Mass it is. Yet as I heard the chant and saw the Consecration, I was so moved I wanted to cry. I felt that this is what I had looked for in my conversion and finally found it. I continue to see the Novus Ordo as a valid Mass but the Traditional Latin Mass had something about it - it moved me not only emotionally but spiritually in a very deep way. I felt - this was what I intended to find in the Church and was drawn to even before experiencing it. Edited May 25, 2015 by MarysLittleFlower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I still remember my first Traditional Latin Mass it was in a college chapel and it was said by a visiting FSSP priest I think. My friends and I were late, I was distracted, we were at the side somewhere with no missal or any clue about what's going on and what part of the Mass it is. Yet as I heard the chant and saw the Consecration, I was so moved I wanted to cry. I felt that this is what I had looked for in my conversion and finally found it. I continue to see the Novus Ordo as a valid Mass but the Traditional Latin Mass had something about it - it moved me not only emotionally but spiritually in a very deep way. I felt - this was what I intended to find in the Church and was drawn to even before experiencing it. Beautifully said and yes the Novus Ordo is valid but validity is not everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Beautifully said and yes the Novus Ordo is valid but validity is not everything. No Catholic Vs. Catholic debate please. And that warning goes for everyone. Can we ever appreciate a certain form of mass without dumping or questioning the merits of another? The Novus Ordo WAS originally meant to be said in Latin, and there are a number of churches in England that have the Novus Ordo in sung Latin, and they're beautiful. I've only been to one tridentine mass, though I wouldn't mind attending again. But the altar boys bowed so quickly from side to side they looked like they were wiggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No Catholic Vs. Catholic debate please. And that warning goes for this entire thread. Can we ever appreciate a certain form of mass without dumping or questioning the merits of another? The Novus Ordo WAS originally meant to be said in Latin, and there are a number of churches in England that have the Novus Ordo in sung Latin, and they're beautiful. I've only been to one tridentine mass, though I wouldn't mind attending again. But the altar boys bowed so quickly from side to side they looked like they were wiggling. Well said, although it's not about the use of Latin per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Well said, although it's not about the use of Latin per se. Tridentine vs. Novus Ordo is a subject that gets very touchy and has been debated here ad nauseum, please put it to rest. (ad nauseum, see what I did there) Edited May 26, 2015 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) The Novus Ordo WAS originally meant to be said in Latin, On the books yes, but most of the architects of the Novus Ordo had every intention of it being exclusively vernacular. That had been a goal of the progressivists since the 30s and 40s in some cases, and there is a clear continuity between the radical wing of the "Liturgical Movement" and the eventual creation of the Pauline Missal. Edited May 26, 2015 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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