Katie Bell Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Good morning:) just a quick question, where can i buy a carmine nuns habit. I would like it to be like the read deal. with all the layers. Basically if they dont have it i dont want it. can any one point me where to go. Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Nuns' habits vary from order to order and it would be difficult if not impossible to buy a 'real' one online. This is because each habit is usually sewn for the specific sister who needs it - there is no one warehouse where every nun goes for a readymade habit. Why would you want one anyway? Personally I feel a bit uneasy with the use of the habit as a costume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bell Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey:) well thats a good question. i am discerning at this present time, leaning towards carmine. How ever i am just a slight but autistic. This makes me obsessive, my spiritual adviser has suggested i just get out my system. So my mum has agreed to just get me a habit etc to experience it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NadaTeTurbe Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 An habit is a sacred things. It is not a game, or a costume. it is given in particular cisconstances, for particular reasons. You can't just have an habit to experience it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I am autistic myself (not just slightly, diagnosed with autism) and I don't think that this is a good way to deal with the obsessive thinking. Wearing a habit won't help you to experience what it's like to be a Carmelite. The best way to gain an understanding would be to form a relationship with a local Carmel, visit frequently with the prioress, and do a live-in to see whether this is truly the life for you or if you are mistaking a fascination with their way of life for a vocation. Dressing in a habit won't help you to know one way or the other, and it takes meaning away from the habit - nuns have prayers that they say as they put on each piece and it becomes an important symbol for them, which it wouldn't be for someone who was just focusing on the 'look' of the habit and how it feels to wear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Guimaraes Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Peace and Good! Search here: http://www.gloryandpraisevestments.com/habitscatalog_final.htm http://www.monksandnunshabits.com Jesus, Mary and Francis be with you and bless you! Br. Alberto Guimaraes OFS Braga - Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bell Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 @ALBERTO GUIMARAES MANY THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Guimaraes Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Peace and Good! Monastic footwear: http://www.barroux.org/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=2&Itemid=189 http://www.monastica-art-et-artisanat.com/CT-265-Sandales-de-Jerusalem.aspx#CT-254-Moniale-(femme)-naturel http://www.artisanatmonastique.com/sandales-scholastiques-modele-femme-tailles-36-a-41.htm http://jerusalem.cef.fr/de-jerusalem/artisanat-et-magasins/les-sandales-de-jerusalem But if possible stay barefoot! Jesus, Mary and Francis be with you, keep you and bless you! Br. Alberto Guimaraes OFS Braga - Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Br Alberto, are you actually a Catholic religious? I notice you don't have the religious tag, and I don't think that telling a young woman (from the sounds of it, a very young woman) to stay barefoot and giving her links to costume sites is something that a brother would do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marigold Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Br Alberto, are you actually a Catholic religious? I notice you don't have the religious tag, and I don't think that telling a young woman (from the sounds of it, a very young woman) to stay barefoot and giving her links to costume sites is something that a brother would do... Yes, it's making me uneasy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey:) well thats a good question. i am discerning at this present time, leaning towards carmine. How ever i am just a slight but autistic. This makes me obsessive, my spiritual adviser has suggested i just get out my system. So my mum has agreed to just get me a habit etc to experience it. Do you think St Therese or St Teresa of the Andes would have asked their parents to spend over $400 on something? They were more focused on preparing and having a heart pleasing to Jesus, making many sacrifices for love of Him, helping their parents and family with chores everyday without complaint and without being asked and so forth. Do all that for love of Jesus not expecting anything in return except you are making Jesus happy, THAT will make you more of a Carmelite than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Guimaraes Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yes, it's making me uneasy as well. Do you think St Therese or St Teresa of the Andes would have asked their parents to spend over $400 on something? They were more focused on preparing and having a heart pleasing to Jesus, making many sacrifices for love of Him, helping their parents and family with chores everyday without complaint and without being asked and so forth. Do all that for love of Jesus not expecting anything in return except you are making Jesus happy, THAT will make you more of a Carmelite than anything. Peace and Good! I replied to a Katie Bell' s question, and she thanks my reply. I gave her the websites of two places from where she' ll can to buy her habit without resorting to any religious community. As for footwear (sandals) I indicated some websites of religious communities that make it handmade.I am a Catholic religious (secular Franciscan), and I used the habit of the Tertiary Order of Penance while our superiors decided not suppress its use.Even without the habit, I follow walking barefoot whenever possible, according to the special vow I made the moment to enter the SFO, and when I can not being so I put on sandals.If the use of the habit helps Katie to feel more earnest in their religious vocation and iif she has money possibilities to acquire a habit, purchase it.They wonder if I advise the barefoot walk? I do so not only in my capacity as a religious and health professional but because the benefits of barefooting outweigh any drawbacks.Visit http://www.barefooters.org Jesus, Mary and Francis be with you, keep you and bless you! Br. Alberto Guimaraes OFS Braga - Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 There may be a language barrier here - 'a religious' refers to a person living a vowed life of poverty, chastity, and obedience in a monastery or convent. Secular Franciscans, Carmelites, Dominicans, etc. are not religious in that sense. They don't wear anything like the habit we would associate with nuns and monks. A quick check reveals that the current secular Franciscan garb is either a small scapular (to be worn under the clothes) or a Tau cross. A religious habit of the sort that enclosed Carmelite nuns wear isn't part of a secular vocation, and I think there are good reasons for that. You can't get a habit without going to a religious community, because being in community is what gives the habit its meaning. The most these sites can offer are clothes that look habit-like, and what's the point? Ordering a habit from websites that look as though they specialise in medieval pageant wear and buying extremely expensive 'monastic' sandals will not strengthen anybody's vocation, because a true vocation is about more than these externals. I would worry that it might have the reverse effect: vocation directors are perhaps more likely to be cautious of someone who is prepared to spend a lot of money to essentially play dress-up before they enter, especially if that person has a tendency to get very obsessed with such things, as Katie says she has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Leticia Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey:) well thats a good question. i am discerning at this present time, leaning towards carmine. How ever i am just a slight but autistic. This makes me obsessive, my spiritual adviser has suggested i just get out my system. So my mum has agreed to just get me a habit etc to experience it. Did your spiritual director suggest that the best way to get Carmel out of your system was by dressing up in a fake habit? (and yes, it would be fake, because as the others have said, authentic habits are made in the monastery for specific sisters) If not, what suggestions did your SD make? And I will add, though others have already said this, that my experience is that there is much much more to being a religious than just what you wear or don't wear. And that's what any discerner should be focusing on. Btw, Beatitude, you asked Alberto why he doesn't have a religious tag - well, neither do I! I assume I don't have one/can't get one because I'm new, and first I need to earn my stripes, but tag or not, I am a Catholic religious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Btw, Beatitude, you asked Alberto why he doesn't have a religious tag - well, neither do I! I assume I don't have one/can't get one because I'm new, and first I need to earn my stripes, but tag or not, I am a Catholic religious! Sister, to get that tag you need to send a private message to a site admin (dUSt or the Vocation Station moderator) with some proof that you are who you say you are - your full name, your community, etc. In the past we did have a couple of users who posed as nuns and turned out not to be, so the tag system is a way to guarantee that discerners are listening to someone who really is in religious life. I was a bit concerned to think that a friar would be advising someone to buy a habit from a costume website as I didn't want younger discerners to get the idea that this is something recommended, but Alberto has now made it clear that he's a lay Franciscan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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