Catlick Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) My new job allows me to attend Mass at a nearby church, run by the Emmanuel Community. Who are they? I can find some information on the Internet, but my experience is that online sources aren't very reliable. Has anyone here seen the 'inside' of the Emmanuel Community? Do they stimulate heresy like the Society of Jesus currently does, or are they true to the Magisterium? There's reverence in their Masses (no semi-Protestant nonsense, although the liturgical vestments are 1970ish) and the priests are pretty good at hearing Confession - less strict and demanding than Opus Dei priests) but certainly not of the 'it's okay, one Hail Mary you must pray, now go away'-kind. But that's only an impression. I'd like to hear more. Edited April 21, 2015 by Catlick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 From their website: "The Emmanuel Community is a Catholic lay international community that brings together faithful that share a common call to strive for holiness and commit themselves to actively live their faith in their daily lives through adoration, compassion and evangelization; thus fulfilling their call as the first believers did who had “only one heart and one soul!” (Acts 4:32)" They sound like freemasons, stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 From their website: They sound like freemasons, stay away. Um, how does that sound anything like freemasonry? It sounds like any lay intentional community. If you think the Jesuits stimulate heresy, then you probably aren't going to like them. They're part of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Um, how does that sound anything like freemasonry? It sounds like any lay intentional community. If you think the Jesuits stimulate heresy, then you probably aren't going to like them. They're part of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. The freemasons and jesuits are subtle. They corrupt as angels of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 My new job allows me to attend Mass at a nearby church, run by the Emmanuel Community. Who are they? I can find some information on the Internet, but my experience is that online sources aren't very reliable. Has anyone here seen the 'inside' of the Emmanuel Community? Do they stimulate heresy like the Society of Jesus currently does, or are they true to the Magisterium? There's reverence in their Masses (no semi-Protestant nonsense, although the liturgical vestments are 1970ish) and the priests are pretty good at hearing Confession - less strict and demanding than Opus Dei priests) but certainly not of the 'it's okay, one Hail Mary you must pray, now go away'-kind. But that's only an impression. I'd like to hear more. Your criticism of approved orders and practices of the Church is getting pretty intolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlick Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Your criticism of approved orders and practices of the Church is getting pretty intolerable. I have great respect for what St. Ignatius of Loyola and his spiritual sons have done in the service of Our Lord. The Society of Jesus has surely been one of the Holy Spirit's greatest gifts to the Church. A gift that keeps on giving, as we can still follow the Spiritual Exercises. I have zero respect for Jesuits who betray the Society of Jesus's original project by advocating Communism and gay marriage. The wicked lies they preach can lead you to Hell. Charity demands every Catholic to warn against this. Edited April 22, 2015 by Catlick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) . I have zero respect for Jesuits who betray the Society of Jesus's original project by advocating Communism and gay marriage. The wicked lies they preach can lead you to Hell. Charity demands every Catholic to warn against this. I bet you're great fun at parties. Edited April 22, 2015 by Aragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Also, the Emmanuel Community are charismatics. So, like most charismatics, they tend to be doctrinally orthodox and have a strong Eucharistic and Marian devotion. However, from my experience, they don't go in for the politicking about trad vs liberal, left vs right, that so many people on both sides often get enmeshed in. From my perspective this is a very positive thing, however if you sincerely believe that every Catholic is duty bound to denounce the Jesuits then the approach of groups like EC might not be for you. PS. The Jesuits are a bit kooky, sure, but they also do some great work. America Magazine is pretty interesting and they do wonderful work in social justice. Edited April 22, 2015 by Aragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NadaTeTurbe Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You're a catholic, you're supposed to respect and love everyone, including jesuit. Without jesuit, i would not have been a catholic. Anyway... The Emmanuel COmmunity birth place is in France. They are charismatic. The founder was a very good, humble man. A lot of people discovered that he was the founder at his death ! They write songs : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmQh77K0Rs They are at Paray-le-Monial, so they are into the sacred heart. BUT they are not american, so they will not call themselves "conservative" "republican" or whatever, they are just catholic. THey have three important thing : - Eucharistic adoration - compassion & love (yes, for the jesuit too)- (new) Evangelization Other devotion are : the Sacred Heart, the Virgin Mary, Sainte Thérèse de LIsieux, Saint Vincent de Paul, worship, gift of the spirit, etc... They have a service called "SOS Prière", you can call them and they will teach you how to pray. They gave to France a lot of priest and bishop. They do also a lot of formation to NFP (they are nearly the only one to do it in France). I did not know that freemasons did eucharistic adoration, new evangelization, and devotion to the Sacred Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) BUT they are not american, so they will not call themselves "conservative" "republican" or whatever, they are just catholic. Maybe what we need around here is more non-American Catholics... Edited April 23, 2015 by Gabriela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlick Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks pretty good. Charismatic Renewal is not my taste, but they seem loyal to orthodoxy and don't bow to Modernism when it comes to the Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Era's trolling, I love it lol. nah, actually I pretty much agree with CL on this one. And this is coming from someone who follows a Jesuit prayer and discernment program (that was designed recently). Where did CL say we are duty bound to condemn the Jesuits, even good ones? Where did he say he doesn't love even disobedient Jesuits? is there a post that was deleted? The only people/group I've read CL denouncing is... "Jesuits who betray the Society of Jesus's original project by advocating" for things against the Catholic Church. As Catholics we should all be strongly against that. Unfortunately in America unfaithfulness and heresy is a really common problem with some (used to be most) people in the Society, even if individual or local Jesuits are amazing (and I know some who are probably saints tbh). Maybe it's not a big problem outside the Americas. Just use a little common sense and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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