Nihil Obstat Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 So according to Catholic theology it's 100 percent established fact that there will be no physical attractions in Heaven once we have bodies again? Did you read my previous posts or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 @Josh - the ecstasy of sex is great, and is a good (within marriage), but it is but a dim reflection of the ecstasy of Heaven, which will occur without sex. Have you seen Bernini's sculpture of the Ecstasy of St Teresa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 How was the video sexist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I feel pretty grossed out, cuz that last post of yours, Josh, seems to suggest that you think God made "girls" primarily or solely for your sexual pleasure. No not at all. Sorry if you thought that. I'm celibate. Haven't had sex in like 6 or 7 years. Again sorry you thought that. Thanks for everyone's imput. God bless. Edited April 17, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) This is one of the problems I have with the idea of God. To "ascend" to God (call it heaven or whatever you want), we have to imagine a world where the human experience as we know it ceases to exist. I guess that is comforting to some people, but to me it's troubling...is it not better to simply be human, to have life, breath, sex, love, hate, failure, etc, and then to die? That makes more sense to me than a transcendent "new world" that we all pass over to. Yea good points. Living forever does seem a little overwhelming when you think about it. I can still remember being 5 or 6 years old thinking/daydreaming about living forever and what that meant. I actually can remember thinking I didn't want to live forever. Now as an adult that has changed and I think I want life to continue after death. But you make great points. I'm sure there are tons of people who just want to die and that be it. Probably really decent/good people too. It's not like they asked to be created or to live forever. So why should they have to exist for eternity (whatever that is) but that's a whole another topic. Edited April 17, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 @Josh - the ecstasy of sex is great, and is a good (within marriage), but it is but a dim reflection of the ecstasy of Heaven, which will occur without sex. Have you seen Bernini's sculpture of the Ecstasy of St Teresa? No I haven't. What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) @Josh - the ecstasy of sex is great, and is a good (within marriage), but it is but a dim reflection of the ecstasy of Heaven, which will occur without sex. Have you seen Bernini's sculpture of the Ecstasy of St Teresa? So why do we eat or drink in Heaven? Surely eating or drinking is a dim reflection of the ecstasy of Heaven. So In heaven can I hug a person of the female gender? If I can hug her can I give her a little kiss? Sure that will be a dim reflection of the ecstacy of heaven but sometimes the little things are great. I don't see why it has to be one or the othet. Why not both? I think the sex thing gets confused at what I really mean. I'm not talking about earthly sex. Like I said it could be as simple as an innocent kiss. Edited April 17, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 So why do we eat or drink in Heaven? Surely eating or drinking is a dim reflection of the ecstasy of Heaven. So In heaven can I hug a person of the female gender? If I can hug her can I give her a little kiss? Sure that will be a dim reflection of the ecstacy of heaven but sometimes the little things are great. I don't see why it has to be one or the othet. Why not both? I think the sex thing gets confused at what I really mean. I'm not talking about earthly sex. Like I said it could be as simple as an innocent kiss. As I've explained before, we don't eat or drink in heaven. Those are earthly things that, though they may taste good, are, at their heart, for the sole purpose of keeping us from dying. In heaven, we will have no need of such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 We won't eat or drink in Heaven? You're 100 percent sure of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No I haven't. What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No not at all. Sorry if you thought that. I'm celibate. Haven't had sex in like 6 or 7 years. Again sorry you thought that. Thanks for everyone's imput. God bless. Strictly speaking you are continent, rather than celibate. Speaking briefly, from Dr. Peters: Celibacy is the chosen, deliberately made, resolve not to enter marriage. Celibacy is not simply ‘being single’ (else, every child is a ‘celibate’), but rather, it means having chosen to live single either for a while (e.g., till I finish grad school, or till my ailing mother dies) or for life (e.g., I have been ordained or I took permanent religious vows). Celibacy can be chosen for good reasons (e.g., I wish to follow the Lord more freely, or I wish to serve as a nurse in poor countries) or for bad reasons (e.g., I despise people and refuse to share my life with anyone), but, standing alone, celibacy means only that a choice not to enter marriage has been made and is being observed. Such a person, and only such a person, is properly called ‘celibate’. That being understood, single persons, whether single because of circumstances (e.g., I have not yet met Miss Right, or my husband died last year) or because they are celibate, are restricted in the sexual activity they can engage in. Not to get ahead of ourselves, but those restrictions include what we will call “continence”. But when discussing celibacy, keep in mind that it is a chosen way of life, a way of life that has certain consequences, yes, but fundamentally, a way of life. Continence is the choice not to engage in sexual relations. Again, the element of choice is important because simply not having sex does not necessarily mean that one is ‘continent’. A castaway on a desert island might have no food to eat but we would not say he is ‘dieting’, why? because ‘dieting’ implies that one makes a choice about not eating. Now, a single person (again, whether single by circumstances or because one is celibate) is required to exercise, among other things, continence. But married persons, too, might observe continence. Mary and Joseph are the classic examples: they were not, repeat not,celibate; they were, repeat were, continent. Sometimes you will run across the phrase “periodic continence” or even notions like ‘selective continence’. I avoid these terms, because,continence, carefully considered, is usually tied to a state of life (chiefly, being single, but other possibilities exist) and hence continence is of long (often permanent) duration; per se continence is not a response tocircumstances in life. Example? a married couple might decide to give up conjugal relations during Lent, but the better description of their choice, because it is temporary, is “abstinence”; likewise a couple who avoids relations at certain times of the month as part of natural family planning—such couples are abstaining, not, properly speaking, observing continence. And to describe sexual fidelity to one’s spouse as ‘selective continence’ is just creepy. Chastity is the exercise of that virtue whereby one’s sexual powers are used properly and in accord with one’s state in life. A non-married person (again, whether single or actually celibate) is chaste by observing, among other things, continence; but a married person ischaste by engaging in conjugal relations! In both cases it’s the same virtue at work—chastity, the proper use of one’s sexual powers—but the actions are obviously quite different. Similarly, if a married person does with a third-party exactly what is done with a spouse, that would be unchastity, even though the actions appear the same. In short: the Church teaches that everyone is called to observechastity at all times; she holds that all single persons are called to observe continence; and she recognizes that some single persons laudably choose celibacy as a way of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I don't get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 We won't eat or drink in Heaven? You're 100 percent sure of that? http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/137183-sex-in-heaven/?do=findComment&comment=2722431 Yes, as has been answered before. Now if you just want to have your questions answered the way you want them I would like to know. It is pointless to try and help you answer them if you will not accept the answer when you do not like it. You know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) I have no idea how you know 100 percent if we will eat or drink or not but whatever lol Revelations says we will drink the life giving water and eat the tree of life. Edited April 18, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 You also said for sure we wouldn't have bodies and you were 100 percent wrong. It amazes me you know for certain so much about heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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