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Anastasia13

​You are right voting does matter,

 

But when you are voting between dog poo and cat poo, who cares. in the end it is still poo.

​Some poo is better to tolerate than other poo. Some poo you can make enough noise about composting with that a candidate can either make a bit deal about to potentially risk embarrassment or risk future endeavors to go the other way on, or other candidates might pick up on how important this issue is if they want to pursue a political career in your district/state/whatever. Bottom like though, you gotta be willing to try. Be loud and proud and don't take **** from politicians when talking to them about something you want to see changed.

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​Some poo is better to tolerate than other poo. Some poo you can make enough noise about composting with that a candidate can either make a bit deal about to potentially risk embarrassment or risk future endeavors to go the other way on, or other candidates might pick up on how important this issue is if they want to pursue a political career in your district/state/whatever. Bottom like though, you gotta be willing to try. Be loud and proud and don't take **** from politicians when talking to them about something you want to see changed.

​the ole squeaky wheel is the wheel that gets fixed, that analogy would work too, but I like my poo is still poo analogy.

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Anastasia13

​the ole squeaky wheel is the wheel that gets fixed, that analogy would work too, but I like my poo is still poo analogy.

​If you want to make pet poop safe for fertilizer, turn up the heat to make it sanitary. It can help non-food plants without this though. Fair warning, cat poop is considered riskier than dog poop.

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​If all you have is a couple campaign promises to make you vote one way or another, you should have done your homework. Not everything one runs into as president can be predicted, but resources of character and good judgement matter, even if supply is short.

What you do depends on several things, the presidents next plans, your access to media, how you are willing to be seen, what connections you have, the time you have free, people that agree with you that you can connect with, etc.

 

BTW, do you honestly believe Gore would have lead the US the same way G. W. Bush did after 9/11?

​Isn't GITMO still open?

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Anastasia13

​Isn't GITMO still open?

Does that make a difference in answering if you honestly believe Gore would have lead the US the same way G. W. Bush did after 9/11?

One commonality does not a difference unmake.

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Does that make a difference in answering if you honestly believe Gore would have lead the US the same way G. W. Bush did after 9/11?

One commonality does not a difference unmake.

​One?
 

Drug war, deportations, PATRIOT Act, Warrantless wiretapping, continual budget increases, Foreign interventionism, Military foreign interventionism, Economic intervention, Protectionism, Corporatism.

All of these continued unabated through Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. And they will continue under Clinton, Bush, or anyone else.

 

I think it's possible that Gore might not have been on board with attacking Iraq. I don't think it would have mattered, though. But I don't see what presidents do as "leading", anyway. Leadership isn't to be found in the relationship between masters and slaves, which is the relationship between the political class and the Mundanes. If you have to threaten violence, you're not leading. If you've had to indoctrinate people from youth about your superiority, you're just a creepy manipulator, not a leader.

Would Gore's speechifying and political maneuvers have resulted in a substantially different domestic and foreign policy? No. It would have led to howls of outrage as foreign policy remained the same (as it has with Obama), but it wouldn't have been really different. I assure you that plenty of innocents would have died even if Gore had won. I promise you that innocents will continue to die after the next election, whichever "side" wins. Don't you worry, the US will drop democracy on women and children all over the globe and you will get to pay for it with privately produced money that you are compelled to accept and not deface.

Because liberty.

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