track2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Okay so I realize this movie is not about Catholicism, but we're getting over that. I figured this would be the best place to talk about the message the movie presented. So I saw Saved! tonight; I really enjoyed it. Part of that comes from knowing the kind of culture that the movie potrayed, but also because I know kids who have had to live through the kinds of situations the characters did. Maybe I should give a little run through of the flick before I go any further. Very fundamentalist Christian school in the Bible belt. A girl get pregnant because she was trying to save her boyfriend from being gay. Meanwhile the lone Jew in the school and a kid in a wheelchair start to rebel and befriend the pregnant girl. And the popular uber Christian girl is constantly trying to save the Jew. Things go on from there. Near the end there is a speech by the pregnant girl about how the community is not doing the Christian thing because they aren't accepting people for what they are. (It's a kinda one sided description, sorry about that). I thought of it as a satire, which is what it was meant to be. In the end, after about an hour of Christian jokes and stero-typical Christian music (with hand waving) the message is good and clear and rings true. I'll suggest this movie to anyone who is willing to have an open mind about it. So now I'm feeling a little vechlimped... I'll give you a topic... Saved!... it's neither a sentence nor does it really need the exclimation point... discuss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 hahhaa im glad you had an open mind and im glad you got your moneys worth. i figued it wouldbe like that, but just wondering, did you find it overly sex oriented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point5 Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 It wasnt sex oriented at all. That is what I hate about that site that writes about anything that can be sexual. Yes everything written in those sites that tell about the sexual scenes in the movie were true...but this movie was not about sex at all...I saw it today...it was only used when showing how the girl got pregnant, and maybe some other times, but there were never any bad scenes or anything that would cause even a pervert to get aroused (in my opinion...Im not a pervert however lol). Sex had nothing to do with the movie...any other claim is wrong. Sorry had to get that off my chest cause that was a huge controversie in the thread I started about this movie a couple days back -Kiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
track2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Share Posted June 12, 2004 I'll have to agree whole heartedly with Point5. The sex was there because the story was about a girl getting pregnant and anyother sexual refrences were defining characters. Most, if not all, movies have some sex in them, but you can't just be like, 'it has sex in it its bad' because life has sex in it. I thought that Saved! did the whole sex thing rather well because they only used it with the main character, Mary, and to differentiate some other kids from the larger population of the school, there were not any unnecessary refrences. In my opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmGuy127 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 i thought the movie was great... worth the almost 20$s i spent so that my deadbeat friends could go ...but aside from that... it was just a brilliant piece of satire... with some really really great lines... "I crashed my van into Jesus!"... i was kinda concerned though that the students in the film wore almost exactly the same uniform as my (former) highschool... a great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3chrmd Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Well it makes fun of fundamentalist and "bible-only" christians...so we catholics shouldn't have a problem with it! I saw it tonight...it was funny and good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
track2004 Posted June 13, 2004 Author Share Posted June 13, 2004 I guess being a satire means it will make fun, but with a message, making fun isn't nice even if the people are in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonman3884 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 im not sure i like the idea of making fun of christianity on the big screen (even if it is evangelical "left behind" type christianity). i havent seen the movie, but do you guys think i should see it even though i dont like that whole making fun of christians idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 i loved it. i don't think it makes fun of christianity, but challenges your faith and brings attention to issues: the way christians are often seen by others and behave in a secular world. sure its extreme - but what movie isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point5 Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I loved it too, but thought that the overall message could have been done better and had a huger impact on an audience if it were given in such a tenn comedy setting. It was good, but I would like the same message in a hard-hitting drama, hope this movie inspires someone to tackle that. -Kiel ps spoonman go see it. It's not what you think. The movie isn't to make fun of these christians per say, but to show a harsh reality that people like this exist, and it does not promote Christs love. The movie is against closemindedness, which is ironically what most of the people who refuse to see it are. Because a movie does not 100% agree with my views, does not always follow that I should noty see the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 All of you kids who say "Saved!" isn't that bad of a offense to Catholics (i.e. "It was great!") are just fooling yourselves. Personally, I find a lot of issues in that movie offenses against chastity, purity, morality, etc... Seriously, the producer said he didn't intend to offend Christians, yet he wasn't smart enough to know that true Christians find some of this carp offensive? You guys are just foolin' yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmGuy127 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 [quote] offenses against chastity, purity, morality, etc... [/quote] you said you found offenses? do you mind if i ask what they were specifically? and as for the movie being offensive to christians... im not gonna look em all up for you but if you do alittle searching it seems to me that many christians who went to this type of school seem to think that this is a very realistic accurate portrayal of that community... ...so i guess if reality is offensive... then maybe... this is... ps- that came off a bit harsh but please dont take it the wrong way ok, were all freinds here right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 I just found that the theme was stupid. A girl tries to have sex with her gay boyfriend to get her to heaven? Tcch. And really, if other Christian kids just aren't plain offended by it, whoever they are, I just have more prayers to say. Maybe it's just a personal thing: maybe I'm just more spiritually mature than these Christians your speaking of and just find more things offensive than others. And no, I never said that we were friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point5 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 My roomate attended a Baptist high School, and he loved the movie...he said that it was like a replica of his school (scary!!!) and him and his friends were naming people they knew during the movie for certain characters. This movie IS NOT offensive to chastity, purity, and morality. It doesnt even promote them. The fact that they are present in the movie does not logically follow that it supports them and is offensive towards them. The director used these things to show a point and did so in a manner that did not exploit sex or purity. Fact is stuff like that DOES happen, and to portray that in a movie, some elements of it must be shown. Granted the comedy was intended to be overboard, and perhaps mocking, but that is the whole point of the movie...maybe you missed it. -Kiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 nikkan, I agree with you, but I have to say, only insofar as the movie goes. Personally, I don't think its any worse of a movie than anything else out there, but I dont think its much better. True, the idea of open-mindedness is espoused - but it is espoused in many movies. Also, Filmguy, I'll try to answer your question the best I can: I think the most dramatic offenses are the basic assumptions made. For example, the "not a big deal" outlook on sex (its the pregnancy that is a big deal), the "its ok to be (unrepentant) gay" message (subliminal or not), etc. However, Nikkan, I would like to vehemently disagree with the latter part of your post. This may not be a 100% pure movie, but it is most certainly not what we need to be worrying about when it comes to the corruption of the youth. Moreover: I sincerely hope you didn't intend for the posts to sound self-righteous, but yours do, and humility, not pride, is the sign of the spiritually mature. Also, I would like to point out that even if everyone on this board is a worse sinner than you, and not as "mature" in their faith, that just means you are called to bear witness to Christ more fully, and lead by example. Christ befriended sinners, so too should you, for "No servant is greater than his Master." Just some food for thought... - Your Brother in Christ, and, I pray, your friend, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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