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Kind of skimmed it, sounds cute and looks good. Sad to hear about the Nick Sparks divorce :( I wonder if he'll keep writing the romance novels? 

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it's so long I didn't even read it, sorry Basilisa. I'll take your word for it that it's an actually good article though. 

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Basilisa Marie

If you just read like, the first third, you get his point. :) 

 

The best line: "I didn't marry The One. I married this one, and the two of us became one." 

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Not A Real Name

It could probably do with an editor (it's a little long), but he makes some really good points about marriage and the myth of trying to find your "one true love." 

http://youtu.be/H6_eqxh-Qok

 

Edit:  PS. I read the entire thing and thought it was great. Thank you for sharing it. 

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Wow. It is almost as if he is a human being who is passionate about the faith we all share, and not literally Satan like I thought he must be given how we go on about him.

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PhuturePriest

His article wasn't that long. Technology really has destroyed our ability to focus on one thing for more than five seconds, I'm afraid.

 

It was a very good article, and I feel the length was necessary to give all of the very important points he made. Good on Matt.

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His article wasn't that long. Technology really has destroyed our ability to focus on one thing for more than five seconds, I'm afraid.

 

It was a very good article, and I feel the length was necessary to give all of the very important points he made. Good on Matt.

 

Sure, the length was necessary, as long as repetition of the same point ad nauseum was required to make his point. How's THAT for technology destroying our ability to focus? :harhar:

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I don't know who Matt Walsh or Nicholas Sparks are...

 

But this is a topic I'm very interested in. There is no one "type" of marriage. Two people who are drawn together for intellectual reasons will be operating differently from two people drawn together for spiritual reasons will be operating differently from two people drawn together for social reasons, etc.

 

I find marriage depressing in many ways, it's sort of this social-economic partnership focused on the most mundane of existences, creating stability with the end goal of a middle class lifestyle. I know a couple married 20 years since they were 18, and they work hard, have a decent standard of living, very loving to their son, but personally, I look at that and I'm like...is that it? That's what marriage is for? You raise kids, you save some money, maybe have a few golden years, and then die.

 

I think divorce is both a problem and not a problem. How can we expect people to know who they are going to be at one moment in their 20s  or 30s when they make a lifetime commitment? Let alone know who that other person is going to be. I think divorce is a necessary consequence of what marriage is, a permanent commitment between two people who are (hopefully) growing and changing who they are, discovering themselves. I don't like things like adultery, etc. but I see them as logical behavior of people who are ignorant, don't know who they are, are still discovering it, etc.

 

I agree with the article that the romantic idea of a "soul mate" is dumb, but it's more about how well these two people know themselves, and what kind of perspective they have on life. Having something like a common religious faith, I would imagine, helps a lot, because it's something that helps bridge the gap in that turbulent process of self-discovery, though religious faith is another part of ourselves that we are constantly discovering, changing, growing.

 

And yet, what else can we do? Falling in love is one way we discover ourselves, discover our illusions, idols, etc. Going through a turbulent relationship/marriage etc. can be like going through a dark night of the soul, the only way to discover how to be faithful, how to love someone unconditionally, etc.

 

I don't think there are really any answers to the perennial problem of marriage, except to listen to people who have been through life, and think very carefully about what you're doing. We look at marriage as a "thing," some social rite of passage by which we enter adulthood, etc. It's more like a leap of faith. I like a Stevie Wonder song All Is Fair In Love, "All is changed with time / the future none can see / the road you leave behind / ahead lies mystery."

 

If I could give one bit of advice to people considering getting married, I'd quote them a poem by Charles Bukowski:

 

Oh yes

there are worse things than

being alone
but it often takes decades
to realize this
and most often 
when you do
it's too late
and there's nothing worse
than 
too late. 

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PhuturePriest

Sure, the length was necessary, as long as repetition of the same point ad nauseum was required to make his point. How's THAT for technology destroying our ability to focus? :harhar:

 

The best way to break through a castle wall is by repeatedly smashing it with trebuchet fire, and let's be honest, the cultural dogma that we all have one special person we're supposed to marry is a very thick castle wall.

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The best way to break through a castle wall is by repeatedly smashing it with trebuchet fire, and let's be honest, the cultural dogma that we all have one special person we're supposed to marry is a very thick castle wall.

 

Meh. Okay. Agree to disagree. 

 

Look, I thought it was good, but repetitive. So... meh. 

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