PhuturePriest Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/01/12/catholic-clergy-declare-unwavering-fidelity-to-church-ahead-of-synod/ An international gathering of English-speaking clergy has issued a statement pledging their “unwavering fidelity” to the traditional doctrines of Church teaching on marriage and sexuality ahead of the family synod. The Confraternity of Catholic Clergy, with priests from America, Britain, Australia and Ireland voted unanimously on a statement which said: “The International gathering of Confraternities of Catholic Clergy meeting in Rome (January 5 to 9 2015), have discussed issues pertinent to the forthcoming Synod on the Family in response to the Holy Father’s call for reflection. The fathers pledge their unwavering fidelity to the traditional doctrines regarding marriage and the true meaning of human sexuality as proclaimed in the Word of God and set out clearly in the Church’s Ordinary and Universal Magisterium.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Basilisa Marie Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Great, so the factions are already making themselves official. Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think it's sad it's come to the point where they/anyone feel as though they need to make a confraternity to support one of the most basic parts of Church Teaching. They're priests, it should be obvious where they stand on that. Welcome to western Catholicism, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) I think it's sad it's come to the point where they/anyone feel as though they need to make a confraternity to support one of the most basic parts of Church Teaching. They're priests, it should be obvious where they stand on that. Welcome to western Catholicism, I guess? It wasn't founded for that. The article says it (at least the British Branch) was founded in 2010 following the Year of the Priest. Edited January 12, 2015 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Indeed, there are some cool British priests. :crusader2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Indeed, there are some cool British priests. :crusader2: Srsly. http://calgaryordinariate.weebly.com/about.html Fr Lee Kenyon was born and raised in Manchester, Lancashire, England. He was educated at the University of Lancaster (BA Philosophy), and at the University of Leeds (BA Theology, MA Theology). He studied and trained for the Anglican ministry at the College of the Resurrection, Mirfield, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, a theological college founded by the Community of the Resurrection (the Mirfield Fathers), and was ordained into the Church of England in 2005. He served a curacy in the United Benefice of St Cuthbert, Darwen with St Stephen, Tockholes, in the Diocese of Blackburn, before coming to serve as Priest-in-Charge at St John the Evangelist, Calgary in April 2009. Fr Kenyon was received into the full communion of the Catholic Church in December 2011, and was ordained deacon and priest by the Bishop of Calgary, at the request of the Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St Peter, for service in the same Ordinariate, in June 2012. In December 2012 he was appointed the first Dean of the Canadian Ordinariate Deanery of St John the Baptist.Fr Kenyon is married to Elizabeth, an American, from Boise, Idaho, and a Classics graduate of Hillsdale College, Michigan. Together they have four children, Dominic (10), Felicity (8), Richeldis (3), and Lucy (1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amppax Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Srsly. http://calgaryordinariate.weebly.com/about.html Fr Lee Kenyon was born and raised in Manchester, Lancashire, England. He was educated at the University of Lancaster (BA Philosophy), and at the University of Leeds (BA Theology, MA Theology). He studied and trained for the Anglican ministry at the College of the Resurrection, Mirfield, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, a theological college founded by the Community of the Resurrection (the Mirfield Fathers), and was ordained into the Church of England in 2005. He served a curacy in the United Benefice of St Cuthbert, Darwen with St Stephen, Tockholes, in the Diocese of Blackburn, before coming to serve as Priest-in-Charge at St John the Evangelist, Calgary in April 2009. Fr Kenyon was received into the full communion of the Catholic Church in December 2011, and was ordained deacon and priest by the Bishop of Calgary, at the request of the Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St Peter, for service in the same Ordinariate, in June 2012. In December 2012 he was appointed the first Dean of the Canadian Ordinariate Deanery of St John the Baptist.Fr Kenyon is married to Elizabeth, an American, from Boise, Idaho, and a Classics graduate of Hillsdale College, Michigan. Together they have four children, Dominic (10), Felicity (8), Richeldis (3), and Lucy (1). I need to find one of their parishes. Actually, I just need to go, next time I'm in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It wasn't founded for that. The article says it (at least the British Branch) was founded in 2010 following the Year of the Priest. What was it founded for then? I can't get their American website to load properly. It says that they were founded "with the aim of “fidelity to Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Holy Father.” I support priests being loyal and everything, but shouldn't that be a regular assumption? If it isn't, I'm glad they're making a point of it although it said that's necessary. Is the group more for spiritual support? If so, I'd like to see that mentioned (although it could be on their websites but I haven't visited yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What was it founded for then? I can't get their American website to load properly. It says that they were founded "with the aim of “fidelity to Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Holy Father.” I support priests being loyal and everything, but shouldn't that be a regular assumption? If it isn't, I'm glad they're making a point of it although it said that's necessary. Is the group more for spiritual support? If so, I'd like to see that mentioned (although it could be on their websites but I haven't visited yet). The thing is, there are several groups of priests which intentionally seem to push this boundary. One of the best known, and most vocal, is a group of Irish priests (they have a significant amount of Irish clergy iirc). They have pushed for many un-Catholic things. It should be a regular assumption. This shouldn't have to happen. But sometimes priests get tired of being scowled at (or worse) for being faithful from their brother priests and even their bishops. So they form a group where they can talk about living and working in the trenches and pray for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Great, so the factions are already making themselves official. Lovely. I see no reason why a group of clergy coming together and unanimously declaring unwavering loyalty to the Church and its teachings should be considered negative or something worth bemoaning. Considering that, I don't see why we shouldn't be on these Priests' side, as they are professing unwavering loyalty and fidelity to the Church. In the days of the Arian Heresy, there were two factions: The large majority of Bishops who were Arians, and the minute number who were loyal to the Pope and the Church. I would have openly sided with them back then, and I openly side with these clergymen today. I don't really see why factions and siding with one or the other is bad in and of itself, as it really is nothing new. In the book of Acts there was a major dispute about the Old Law and whether it bound us to it still, and there were two factions representing each side and slugging it out. The existence of theological factions amongst the clergy is so old it should almost be considered a capital 'T' Tradition, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The thing is, there are several groups of priests which intentionally seem to push this boundary. One of the best known, and most vocal, is a group of Irish priests (they have a significant amount of Irish clergy iirc). They have pushed for many un-Catholic things. It should be a regular assumption. This shouldn't have to happen. But sometimes priests get tired of being scowled at (or worse) for being faithful from their brother priests and even their bishops. So they form a group where they can talk about living and working in the trenches and pray for each other. That makes more sense. After I posted I also thought it over and I can see how that would be helpful to priests, especially for the spiritual support. It reminds me of the Confraternity of Priests of the Sacred Heart of JMJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Perhaps it's also an effort to foster clarity and unity. Given that we live in such confusing times, I welcome it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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