Bishop Braxton Letter On Racial Divide

[Guest]

Looks like your racist parent rubbed off on you phuture priest.

[Amppax]

ugh I read the prologue and hated it,  the snide way of slipping in, " how would you feel if everyone in the Catholic Church were portrayed as multiracial or black with only a few white saints " , it's a crock question; but why is it being brought up by  black bishop ?

 

It is a crock question for plenty of reasons, if we are going down the racial road, then we have to acknowledge and address the gender issue as well and give that just as much serious thought and prayer as this bishop suggests we do in regards to " racial divide " etc in " society and the church ".

 

It is poor article over all,  with a slanted vision.

 

There are soo many reasons for bias and racial division just in the Church alone, and when he speaks of only one race in a congregation or only a few races here an there,,,, it is silly, of course there are going to be mainly one race of people in a congregation or economic class, pending where the church is built.  By this logic of thinking that he mentioned, if I go to the heart of Mexico, and I see myself an only a handful of whites in the congregation, evidently by his thinking, this is a problem.  More over Mexicans should have their version of God / Christ as a Mexican.

 

By focusing on such things, art, etc and pointing it out, is only flaming the racial divide not answering it.

 

You want to see more racially diverse art work, then create it, but don't go and proclaim it unfair that since history only focused on certain  races or only feature certain races that in turn means something is wrong.  Christ is / was Jewish it is a fact, but more over what is unfair, is that later in history his disciples , saints, and apostles have come from all races and to ignore that, and not address that, more over to not research any art that has been created to show that is proving the disingenuousness of this paper in general.

 

The Renaissance period features art the way it does because of those who commissioned the art work and where the art was being created, not because of racial biases. So that is one reason why that prologue is so off and wrong.

 

Then I jumped to the end of this, and it is just a big of mess as the prologue , basically after you are done praying,{ go to a  mainly black catholic church and " learn about them and make new friends "  }

 

As Catholics we don't need to do anything special to " bridge the racial divide " we just have to start living our faith in all aspects of our life. 

 

It doesn't help by playing who is the biggest victim game, racial divide goes both ways and that is not what is addressed in any way here.

 

So what you're saying is "I didn't read it, but I didn't like it." 

Edited January 7, 2015 by Amppax

[Amppax]

Looks like your racist parent rubbed off on you phuture priest.

 

Well that isn't merited. Did you read the thread?

[Guest]

*parents

[4588686]

If you want trolling on Phatmass up to your own standards, perhaps you shouldn't leave me to be the only one here trying to keep this place alive and well? :|

 

False. Both of you are shitty trolls. 

[4588686]

"I like the Latin mass I'm such a troll lulz hehehehe"

[4588686]

REAL RECOGNIZES REAL

[Nihil Obstat]

I never troll. I start crap sometimes, but not troll. Never been my style.

[superblue]

So what you're saying is "I didn't read it, but I didn't lik

nope I said what I said because I read enough of it

Edited January 8, 2015 by superblue

[superblue]

The whole "well that's just the way it was" and "if you want diverse representation in your art why don't you just create it" arguments miss the point.  

 

It's not wrong to paint White Jesus. It's not wrong that White Jesus art is popular art. What's wrong is that White Jesus became so popular that it not only became the standard depiction of Jesus but also that it left no room for Brown Jesus or Black Jesus. It's good to think about what your reaction would be if you grew up looking at Black Jesus.  Art with Black Jesus looks weird to me, although it shouldn't be much different than looking at White Jesus. It's okay for me to acknowledge my own biases. Christianity got fused with European culture centuries ago, and there's loads of evidence that Christian missionaries were just as interested in spreading European cultural ideals along with Christianity. There weren't big separations between society and religion and politics and culture like there are today. That's just what happened. So we have to acknowledge that the fact that White Jesus is so popular in regular art as well as "great" art is hugely due to European cultural imperialism.  Along with that, we need to be conscious of it and allow other cultural depictions of Jesus (and religious figures) to thrive.  And that's not simply just a matter of telling artists to make art.  Look how many people criticize the inclusion of cultural diversity and write it off as PC nonsense. 

You wouldn't need to include White Jesus in a Mexican community with a few white people, because White Jesus is already popular and easy to find. It would, however, be good to include Mexican cultural "stuff" and events for a white community with a small Mexican population, but it's not easy to find Brown Jesus and all that goes along with that. 

 

 

in no way does it miss the point, one everyone needs to drop the idea of " black Jesus and White Jesus", considering that idea alone is causing problems that are not even wanted right off the bat,  a black Jesus should look weird, because Jesus was not black, he was Jewish , just like women can not be priests, Jesus was not black.   Is it doing any harm by portraying Jesus as black, no, should the entire Catholic Church all of a sudden start changing religious are so they can fit into the PC art realm of don't want to offend anyone no.

 

The art that people are complaining about is their own cause for concern no one else. They should research what they are interested , look in to the saints of different nationalities and races and stop being lazy and create the art instead of demanding that now everyone be punished for not being pc and thus create a new pc friendly church so anyone of a certain race is not offended.

 

this article is nothing more than reverse racism , that isn't trying to " bridge racial divide " all it is doing is pointing out how bad someone feels the white world is, how the church is too white, and how it should be diverse, all of that is leftist pc bs thinking.

 

You want to complain about diversity make a note of it and complain to God for not making everyone one race all across the world.

 

Or you could try and stop complaining about how bad things are and start living your faith instead of waiting for someone to spoon feed you on how to do it.

[Winchester]

But see, if you only read the first line I sound racist, but then if you read the second you realize I just like accents. I would choose to listen to an African, British, Australian, French, or whatever Priest any day over an American one. American accents bore me and I tend to drone out after a while if what you're saying isn't stimulating.

 

Stop assuming the worst in people. Give people the benefit of the doubt. :|

 

It also helps to know I can't even name an African American Bishop, so obviously I can't make a judgment on how I perceive them in the first place. The only African Bishop I can name is Cardinal Arinze, who is overall good, though a video I saw a while ago makes me question his actual niceness.

Stop digging.

[Ice_nine]

white people crazy

[Winchester]

I'm rereading Cat's Cradle.

[4588686]

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

 

Is it immodest to

 

 

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where r Bush going to jail obama ashamed of this countary

[Luigi]

I read the first half thoroughly and I've skimmed the second half, giving more time to the recommended actions.

 

I like it.

 

It's clear, even-handed, accurate, and thorough. It is an excellent example of a pastoral letter on a current social problem.