little2add Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is that a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I prefer plane, train, or automobile parenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregorMendel Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I dont know about helicopter parenting, but I do support the philosophy of the 'Tiger Mom'. My parents held my siblings and I to a very high standard growing up, and while that did involve a level of involvement I now recognize as somewhat intense, their support, guidance (and yes, discipline) produced a Division 1 cross country star, a Catholic missionary who overcame severe dyslexia to earn an MBA, and a soon to be Doctor :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I always thought helicopter parenting was when parents get so involved with what their kids are doing that they end up denying them opportunities to grow. They don't let their kids face challenges, struggle, or fail in low-consequence ways. You see a lot of kids today that are products of helicopter parenting that either act like like they're entitled to top grades (see Harvard's terrible grade inflation problem) with little work, or are so afraid of failure because they've never really experienced before that if they fail, their world collapses. Or they get to college and suddenly mom and dad aren't around to police you and do your homework for you, and the kid goes nuts with drinking and partying because they never developed good habits or virtues. Granted, this is a HUGE generalization, and even the best parents can have a kid that makes poor decisions when they grow up, because kids will ultimately make their own decisions. But really, parenting is such a contentious and varied topic, that you really have to talk about specific behaviors and situations instead of broad terms like "helicopter parenting." Because what might seem like being a helicopter or a tiger to one person might not seem that way to another. And using broad categories like these tends to make it easier to unfairly pass judgment on parents. Edited November 8, 2014 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I had to helicopter parent in St. Pete. With drug dealers on every street corner in our part of town, I always knew where they were, what they were doing and with whom. We did little league and Boy Scouts. Yet, I let them play in the mud, and if they got in trouble at school I didn't bring a lawyer with me to the principal's office. They were in trouble at home too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I think the implication of helicopter parenting is more about trying to take as many obstacles out of the child's life as possible - not about knowing every movement they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StMichael Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think the implication of helicopter parenting is more about trying to take as many obstacles out of the child's life as possible - not about knowing every movement they make. The term for clearing the path is snowplow parenting. Helicopter, hovers over and acts when something happens, in many ways preventing it. Snowplow, clear the path of any and all obstacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think it has a lot to do with perception of the individual. For example, when my wife criticized my daughter away at college for a low grade point average, she (my wife) was afraid that she (my daughter) might lose a grant. My daughter perceived it as calling her stupid and/or worse. she (my daughter) took it totaly the wrong way, both my wife and daughter ended up a little angry, hurt and upset... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't say I really agree with these labels "helicopter" or "tiger" parenting etc. Everyone has an opinion about how kids should be raised and if you violate that in some way you're doing it wrong and we will slap a label on you. I think there are good parents, bad parents and Try Hard parents but otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) This is generally what people are referring to when they speak of Helicopter Parents, and sadly they do exist. Edited November 10, 2014 by FuturePacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 This link does a good job of explaining it and explaining why it's damaging: http://news.byu.edu/archive12-sep-helicopter.aspx I've always had the benefit of being so independent and doing everything myself to the point that half the time, my parents don't even know what I'm doing until after the fact. I've scheduled a meeting with the vocation director of the diocese in hopes to begin the application process, called a religious community and set up an eight day trip, took the ACTs and studied for them, spoke on the phone with a college admissions office plus emails to see about applying there, and scheduled for two discernment events in the diocese, all without them knowing until after I had done it. Yesterday, I made plans to speak with the Bishop, the vocations director, another Bishop, another vocations director, and to have a meeting with a priest with the FSSP. Apparently, my parents didn't even know I was taking the ACTs again until last week when I informed them it was our last possible weekend to sign up. I suppose this means I don't struggle with relying on my parents to do things for me. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 This link does a good job of explaining it and explaining why it's damaging: http://news.byu.edu/archive12-sep-helicopter.aspx I've always had the benefit of being so independent and doing everything myself to the point that half the time, my parents don't even know what I'm doing until after the fact. I've scheduled a meeting with the vocation director of the diocese in hopes to begin the application process, called a religious community and set up an eight day trip, took the ACTs and studied for them, spoke on the phone with a college admissions office plus emails to see about applying there, and scheduled for two discernment events in the diocese, all without them knowing until after I had done it. Yesterday, I made plans to speak with the Bishop, the vocations director, another Bishop, another vocations director, and to have a meeting with a priest with the FSSP. Apparently, my parents didn't even know I was taking the ACTs again until last week when I informed them it was our last possible weekend to sign up. I suppose this means I don't struggle with relying on my parents to do things for me. :| How sad for you You don't trust your own mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 How sad for you You don't trust your own mother I don't think that's what FP is saying, but I don't want to put words into his mouth. There is a difference between trusting your parents and being independent from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I don't think that's what FP is saying, but I don't want to put words into his mouth. There is a difference between trusting your parents and being independent from them. On the surface, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I don't think that's what FP is saying, but I don't want to put words into his mouth. There is a difference between trusting your parents and being independent from them. What is there not to trust them with? I don't rely on them to do things for me, but that doesn't mean I don't trust their judgement or something. They really like it, actually. They like that I'm mature enough to handle calling colleges and setting things up myself, and it makes them feel better that I don't have to rely on them to do what I should be able to on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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