marigold Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Let's read this and talk about what we think: http://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2godforallthings/2014/11/05/matter-feel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Feelings matter, but they do not take precedence over truth. ^ That's my general answer to this question, and keep in mind I didn't read the link, so if it's not relevant, that's why. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I tried. I really tried to read the article. It's just to darn long. It seems like an interesting blog, glad to have it come across my radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Didn't follow the link, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Your opinion doesn't count you don't even have feelings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Philosopher Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well, there's the whole virtue ethics argument: it's better to do something good because you actually enjoy doing good things than to do good only because you recognize it as an obligation. This, of course, involves the proper submission of emotion to reason etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillion Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Havent read the article....never do out of duty what you would not do out of love. The person involved/affected will sense it, and you will feel untrue in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Let's read this and talk about what we think:http://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2godforallthings/2014/11/05/matter-feel/ Thank you for posting the article, it was very good. I agree with his observations regarding the increase in feelings and sentimentality. So many people nowadays only value things based on how much pleasure they bring to them and how these things make them feel. With this type of thinking becoming more and more prevalent society will value their neighbor less and less as well as life itself. With this comes the rejection of all pain or anything which will require suffering. It's a rejection of the Cross and one which inspires laws like abortion and euthanasia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Thank you for posting the article, it was very good. I agree with his observations regarding the increase in feelings and sentimentality. So many people nowadays only value things based on how much pleasure they bring to them and how these things make them feel. With this type of thinking becoming more and more prevalent society will value their neighbor less and less as well as life itself. With this comes the rejection of all pain or anything which will require suffering. It's a rejection of the Cross and one which inspires laws like abortion and euthanasia. As a Priest I heard giving a talk said very succinctly: "We have a map that tells us where to go, and how to get there. But imagine if a guy, looking at this map, said 'Okay, these are the directions, but how do I feel about them? How does turning right at this corner make me feel? I'm not so sure taking a left on the highway there is going to make me happy.' This is exactly what we do every time we read something on morality and question how it makes us feel; it doesn't matter what we feel, it matters that these are very clear directions and will get us to Heaven regardless of our personal feelings on the matter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 A lot of what is being observed in the article is that the orthodox Christian view of the material universe which attributes God as the Creator and therefore the source of value for all things that exist, is being replaced with an atheistic view of the material universe. A view which results in people attributing the value of everything by how it makes them feel and how much pleasure it will bring them. And how this is also becoming the deciding factor for people who are choosing or abandonig a spiritual and religious path, political side, and basically everything and anything in their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marigold Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 A lot of what is being observed in the article is that the orthodox Christian view of the material universe which attributes God as the Creator and therefore the source of value for all things that exist, is being replaced with an atheistic view of the material universe. A view which results in people attributing the value of everything by how it makes them feel and how much pleasure it will bring them. And how this is also becoming the deciding factor for people who are choosing or abandonig a spiritual and religious path, political side, and basically everything and anything in their life. Great synthesis of the post, Credo. I was struggling to neatly summarise the article for PMers over here. The pleasure/pain cycle and how it affects my choices is something I've had a lot of cause to think about recently myself... Glad you found it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I would never get my taxes done or work night shift or give up sleep to visit loved ones if I only did what I felt like doing at any given moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Havent read the article....never do out of duty what you would not do out of love. The person involved/affected will sense it, and you will feel untrue in your heart. I can't say I agree with this. The Rambam (Jewish dude, also known as Maimonides) said that, even if a Jew doesn't believe in God, s/he should still observe the mitzvot (commandments), because in so doing, s/he would come to see the wisdom of them, and then believe in God. By your logic, I shouldn't go to Mass if I don't love going to Mass. But really, by going to Mass out of a sense of duty, I may come to love going to Mass. So... no. Edited November 9, 2014 by curiousing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I would never get my taxes done or work night shift or give up sleep to visit loved ones if I only did what I felt like doing at any given moment... Gosh you're motivated. I'd never get out of bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Also: I liked the article. Emailed it to about 5 people. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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