CatherineM Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have the same feeling now as I did back in the 80's with aids, wondering how many will die. This is the first time it's gotten loose in a populated area. I think it is more virulent than they realize or that they are willing to publicly admit. Now a health care worker in Dallas has tested positive. There will be more. That's not the one that really scares me though. That was expected. He walked into a hospital like someone who just had a bad case of the flu. The one that scares me is the nurse in Spain. She took care of the missionary priest that got sent home with Ebola. You may not have seen it, but he came off the plane in Spain in a body capsule. Looked like a big incubator. They knew he had it, took extreme precautions, yet a nurse got sick. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 She admitted she may have brushed her face with her gloved hand whilst looking after him. This is to say nothing of the 'precautions' and 'isolation' that the Spanish hospital had in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregorMendel Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 There are several great articles circulating about the transmission rates and methods, I would encourage you to seek those out from a news source you trust. The virus can only be spread through contact with bodily fluids and only when an infected individual is presenting symptoms. With this very short timeline, the relative virulence of the virus, and the public health measures in place already, I believe that unless you are a healthcare worker directly treating an Ebola patient, the odds of contracting the disease are exceedingly slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 weren't there two doctors that were treated in the US and survived? Is this new treatment anything to be optimistic about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 The treatment was developed in Canada. Believe it or not, it uses nicotine. Trouble is that they are out, and think they can only make about 900 doses between now and January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 There are several great articles circulating about the transmission rates and methods, I would encourage you to seek those out from a news source you trust. The virus can only be spread through contact with bodily fluids and only when an infected individual is presenting symptoms. With this very short timeline, the relative virulence of the virus, and the public health measures in place already, I believe that unless you are a healthcare worker directly treating an Ebola patient, the odds of contracting the disease are exceedingly slim. I am aware of all the current information. I read Science and Nature each week in addition to reputable news sources. I also know that there has been a verifiable animal to animal transmission of Ebola by air. I also know that when viruses mutate, a prime ground for mutation is an area of overcrowding, poor sanitation and the like. I believe the slum areas that have been quarantined are a prime breeding ground for mutation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 This reminds me of "The Stand". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregorMendel Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Ebola is not transmissible by air.(http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/?mobile=nocontent) I think you mean to say that transmission is possible by aerosolized body fluids from "animal to animal", (specifically humans in this case) but research has shown that respirable droplets are a marginal mode of transmission. (http://m.jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/179/Supplement_1/ix.long)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15588056/ Also, poor sanitation may lead to an increased incidence of infection, but it has no effect on the mutation rate of a virus, which is a genetic process. Edited October 12, 2014 by GregorMendel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 It's not that easy to get, it's not airborne, shut up everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 We've got a patient isolated here again. I'm not personally concerned about catching myself, just as I wasn't concerned about catching aids in the 80's. I'm just wondering how many are going to end up dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneLine Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Catherine, I think you and I are old enough to remember the 1980's and the 'funeral(s) of the week' club with AIDS. I remember that, too. And lost a LOT of friends to the epidemic (gay, straight, a whole lot of people....) before they figured out how it was being transmitted. (And no, not just gay people. That was part of the problem.... it was in the blood supply... it took a long time to take hold... and had a thousand different faces. And they hadn't figured out what was going on. So kids, seniors, nuns, deacons, etc. were suddenly getting sick, and no one could figure out what the 'sam hill' was going on. And it didn't help that people were giving out a lot of wrong and half-baked theories, either.) And it is especially scary if you (or people you love) have compromised immune systems. Yup. :hug: I get that. BUT they do know a lot about how this one is and isn't transmitted, and hopefully that knowledge and those protocols will be used effectively. So... we all do what we can to follow all the protocols we can, and we pray for the people in the front lines. In my prayers today, and I will offer my Mass this evening for all those involved... and all those who are scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 I tried explaining to my son what it was like going to funeral after funeral and he just couldn't visualize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The treatment was developed in Canada. Believe it or not, it uses nicotine. Trouble is that they are out, and think they can only make about 900 doses between now and January. So a run on cigarettes? Depending on how they manage to quarantine those affected, this might become a reality from here on out. Reminds me to go to confession (chances are extremely low, but nonetheless). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The treatment was developed in Canada. Believe it or not, it uses nicotine. Trouble is that they are out, and think they can only make about 900 doses between now and January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yeah, if they need nicotine, they should just ask. I could send 'em tons of it. As for how many people are going to die: Everyone, so far as I'm aware. Except Elijah, Jesus, and Mary, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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