truthfinder Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Let's see if I can truly "start new drama": “Let’s stop shaming the situation,†he says. “A 14 is beautiful. She doesn’t always want to be a 12. Women want to have boobs and butts. They love having curves, and the designers should be embracing that too.†Campbell says this attitude also exists because of misogyny in the fashion industry. “Clothes are being made by gay men for women,†he says. “A lot of gay men think, ‘Let’s make everyone look like a boy.’ That doesn’t celebrate a woman’s body. A lot of times gay men design clothes in abstract way without keeping in mind a woman’s figure.†https://ca.shine.yahoo.com/how-a-plus-size-girl-navigates-the-pin-thin-world-of-fashion-133830151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I just made myself a skirt. I had to; this country doesn't sell nice long skirts for rotund people like me. So I made one and it is fantastic. Aint no-one going to mistake me for a teenage boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Well, you can't exactly mistake me either, but I neither find the clothing particularly feminine. If you can find pretty, it sure as hell isn't going to fit or it's going to cost a week's worth of food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 To say nothing of the (western) religious imagery. How many girls have been influenced in some kind of body dysmorphia by holy art showing Our Lady and the female saints as bobbly lampposts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 To say nothing of the (western) religious imagery. How many girls have been influenced in some kind of body dysmorphia by holy art showing Our Lady and the female saints as bobbly lampposts? Bahaha :sweat: Well, they obviously have not seen Our Lady of La Leche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Or any portrayal of Our Lady that came from Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Women want to have boobs and butts. They love having curves, and the designers should be embracing that too. While I agree with having more diverse and realistic clothing options and celebrating all types of bodies, I hate it when someone, anyone makes such a general sweeping statement on women and their beliefs and opinions. I'm not overweight, but I do have a more curvy body. Yes, I am a women, and no, I don't love "having curves" and I don't want to have a "boob and butt", and I do prefer to dress in shorts and a tee-shirt, like a boy. People should accept that women have all sorts of likes and dislikes about dressing and their bodies and they may or may not like curves. Don't claim "all women love curves" because they don't, and there's nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with liking curves. Also, I guess I should note that the theory about gay clothes designers is interesting, but it's just a theory. I highly doubt every gay clothes designer wants to make everyone look like a boy, although I'll admit I know nothing about the fashion world, so maybe there is more fact to that than I'm aware of, although I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm don't have any real opinions on this as of yet (except those already stated about it being hard to find clothes that I like and which fit). What perhaps struck me the most is that it was an actual criticism of gay people (perhaps even 'gay culture') which has been seen as taboo for the last little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'm don't have any real opinions on this as of yet (except those already stated about it being hard to find clothes that I like and which fit). What perhaps struck me the most is that it was an actual criticism of gay people (perhaps even 'gay culture') which has been seen as taboo for the last little while. That's a good point, but on further thought, it pits feminism against homosexuality, which is like pitting Baal against Ashtoreth. Let them kill each other, for all we care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 That's a good point, but on further thought, it pits feminism against homosexuality, which is like pitting Baal against Ashtoreth. Let them kill each other, for all we care... I think this battle is already starting between feminists and transgender activists. I guess I'm interested in know how much design is actually made by people who understand women come in different shapes and sizes, and are still capable of producing "feminine" clothing, without resorting to the potato sack modesty dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filumena Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 "Because you know I'm all about that base, bout that base, bout that base, no treble..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That's a good point, but on further thought, it pits feminism against homosexuality, which is like pitting Baal against Ashtoreth. Let them kill each other, for all we care... I chortled I think this battle is already starting between feminists and transgender activists. I was surprised to find this to, but yeah "womyn-born-womyn/cis-women" is an actual thing. Lord help us the world is getting weirder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 I had to look up cis before, I think when facebook decided to release their plethora of gender options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I had to look up cis before, I think when facebook decided to release their plethora of gender options. wow, you had to look it up, so ignorant. It's 2014. Get with the times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 wow, you had to look it up, so ignorant. It's 2014. Get with the times I know. My gradualism is very gradual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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