PhuturePriest Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Where are you getting your information about the Society from? Do you know many priests and people in the SSPX? How many SSPX sermons have you listened to? How many books written by the Society have you read? The Society absolutely do reject religious liberty as taught in DH. Ring up your local SSPX priory and ask them yourself. http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htmhttp://angeluspress.org/They-Have-Uncrowned-Him http://youtu.be/QpnvTjtpyIg?t=12s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) http://youtu.be/QpnvTjtpyIg?t=12s This is really immature..... I used to attend an SSPX chapel, many of my friends grew up in a massive SSPX community on the outskirts of the city, and I still keep in contact with an SSPX priest I'm friends with. I don't mean to sound defensive, but I'm pretty sure I know what the Society is about. Edited September 24, 2014 by Aragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This is really immature..... I used to attend an SSPX chapel, many of my friends grew up in a massive SSPX community on the outskirts of the city, and I still keep in contact with an SSPX priest I'm friends with. I don't mean to sound defensive, but I'm pretty sure I know what the Society is about. I posted that in response to the fact that you are at the very least seeming to have very angry undertones about the SSPX in your posts. Granted, I could be reading wrong, but you seem to come across as very angry on the subject, though not overtly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) I posted that in response to the fact that you are at the very least seeming to have very angry undertones about the SSPX in your posts. Granted, I could be reading wrong, but you seem to come across as very angry on the subject, though not overtly so. Not really. Like I said I'm still friends with a lot of SSPX people, but any attempt to paint them as some moderate group that really do accept Vatican II is just absurd. The moderate ones leave and join the FSSP or similar groups. That's why I found it funny that you told me I have misgivings about the SSPX position when I'm guessing I've got a lot more experience with them than you. Why do you think they accept Dignitatis Humanae? Even a cursory look at their website shows that they do not. Edited September 24, 2014 by Aragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yeah....... I think I will sit this one out. At this point I do not see this thread going anywhere good. Maybe next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountrySteve21 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Maybe we should all start a novena of Rosaries for their return. Pax Edited September 25, 2014 by CountrySteve21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Maybe we should all start a novena of Rosaries for their return. Pax We could take an example out of their book - Rosary Crusade (I think the last one they did had several million rosaries said.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Historian Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) This won't change because +Lefebvre came from a radical French background that advocated an extreme form of Catholic government in reaction to their ancestors being dispossessed after the French Revolution, and at least half of SSPX priests and faithful come from a similar background. I think that you are right. And I think that the political foundations of the Society and their collaborators in a particular French tradition is what truly distinguishes the SSPX from regularised "traditionalists" (and I would count myself amongst those regular "traditionalists"). It is also where the Society falls. Civil society is in a constant state of flux. Empires rise and fall, small nations are in bondage today and are free tomorrow, tyranny and justice vie for control in society. Kings, presidents, prime ministers, chancellors and bankers will all turn to dust and fade away. The Church remains. Her doctrine is ever relevant, it is ever new, and it is ever applicable. It finds its home in the Irish Republic as comfortably as it does in the Kingdom of France. Anchoring ourselves so firmly in what is a temporally transient affair is in my view the height of foolishness. But many in the Society will be comfortably regularised. And in doing so they will bring great strength to the Church. I pray that this speedily comes to pass. Edited October 1, 2014 by An Historian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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