Nihil Obstat Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 These are 'just rumours' for now, but those who know what they are talking about all seem to agree that this is essentially going to happen. I know Burke is well respected by a lot of members around here. I am interested in what all y'all's reactions to this might be. http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1350870?eng=y Small snippet: The next victim would in fact be the United States cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, who from being prefect of the supreme tribunal of the apostolic signatura would not be promoted - as some are fantasizing in the blogosphere - to the difficult but prestigious see of Chicago, but rather demoted to the pompous - but ecclesiastically very modest - title of “cardinal patron†of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, replacing the current head, Paolo Sardi, who recently turned 80. If confirmed, Burke’s exile would be even more drastic than the one inflicted on Cardinal Piacenza, who, transferred from the important congregation for the clergy to the marginal apostolic penitentiary, nevertheless remained in the leadership of a curial dicastery. With the shakeup on the way, Burke would instead be completely removed from the curia and employed in a purely honorary position without any influence on the governance of the universal Church. This would be a move that seems to have no precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 How old is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marigold Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Got this email about 10 seconds ago: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-sources-confirm-cardinal-burke-will-be-removed.-but-will-he-attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Exiled to the Wall. I can't think of anyone better to protect us from the White Walkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Does the Cardinal Patron of the Knights of Malta dress as a medieval knight with a sword and everything? :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The Knights of Malta do have their own bomber aircraft. Maybe Cardinal Burke will be tasked with battling Muslim extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancilla Domini Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 According to my dad, Burke, Müller, and some others just published a pamphlet attacking Kaspar, and this is Burke's "punishment" so to speak. This is horrible. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Just imagine if Cardinal Burke made the Order of Malta all traddy - think of the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 According to my dad, Burke, Müller, and some others just published a pamphlet attacking Kaspar, and this is Burke's "punishment" so to speak. This is horrible. :unsure: Cardinals Burke, Brandmuller, Muller, and I believe three other notable people, at least one of whom is a cardinal, published a book. Each of them contributed a chapter. It is an orthodox defense of Christian marriage, so naturally that puts it at odds with Kasper's little experiment. Whether or not it is related to Burke's situation... well, we may never know one way or the other. But we know the facts that we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here, I posted this in a different thread: We now also know the names of the authors of the book. From Fr. Z: These are the nine chapters of the book: The Argument in Brief- Robert Dodaro, O.S.A. Dominical Teaching on Divorce and Remarriage: The Biblical Data - Paul Mankowski, S.J. Divorce and Remarriage in the Early Church: Some Historical and Cultural Reflections - John M. Rist Separation, Divorce, Dissolution of the Bond, and Remarriage: Theological and Practical Approaches of the Orthodox Churches - Archbishop Cyril Vasil’, S.J. Unity and Indissolubility of Marriage: From the Middle Ages to the Council of Trent - Walter Cardinal Brandmüller Testimony to the Power of Grace: On the Indissolubility of Marriage and the Debate concerning the Civilly Remarried and the Sacraments - Gerhard Ludwig Cardinal Müller Sacramental Ontology and the Indissolubility of Marriage - Carlo Cardinal Caffarra The Divorced and Civilly Remarried and the Sacraments of the Eucharist and Penance - Velasio Cardinal De Paolis, C.S. The Canonical Nullity of the Marriage Process as the Search for the Truth - Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 These things happen. I like Burke, but honestly, I was surprised he made it this long under Francis without being replaced. I'm not too worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't disagree with your boss in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't disagree with your boss in public. Are you referencing the book? Or his various statements "correcting" Francis? More accurately others interpretations of Francis' words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritasluxmea Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I range from meh to wah. I appreciate him but I have no idea how the Church works so I don't know what to call on it, or even if I should make a call. I only learned last year that there were things like cardinals and synods and stuff. I'm wary of getting my views from internet bloggers, even ones I "trust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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