Pope Leo Xiii

[PhuturePriest]

Why the lack of canonization process for him? He wasn't even declared a Servant of God. From what I understand, you don't need to have miracles attributed to yourself to become a Servant of God, correct? It just seems weird that he's the one Pope from the 20th century who isn't somewhere along the canonization process when from what we know, he was just as holy as the rest of them.

 

I refuse to acknowledge a beatification of Pope Paul VI until we beatify Pope Pius XII and make Pope Leo XIII a Servant of God. :|

(And that's not me being a traditionalist, that's me questioning the process in terms of historical closeness of the Popes themselves.)

Edited September 13, 2014 by FuturePrius

[Jaime]

What do you think are good reasons for sainthood?  (I'm not suggesting there aren't good reasons. I just want to know what you think)

[PhuturePriest]

What do you think are good reasons for sainthood?  (I'm not suggesting there aren't good reasons. I just want to know what you think)

 

I realize Sainthood is not a popularity contest or a "Well, he was Pope and he wasn't a terrible person, so let's canonize him" type of thing, but as of late it seems as if lately we're just canonizing everyone who was famous and not a heretic. The title Servant of God is more to say "this was a holy person and is in heaven" than just a first step to canonization, correct?

[Jaime]

Yup

 

I was wondering if you were gonna talk about his "state of extasy" that people like to talk about

[PhuturePriest]

Yup

 

I was wondering if you were gonna talk about his "state of extasy" that people like to talk about

 

I've never even heard of that, so no. :P

[Jaime]

I've never even heard of that, so no. :P

 

The Prayer of St. Michael the Archangel goes back to the late 19th Century. In 1884, Pope Leo XIII was finishing Mass and was walking away from the Tabernacle when he collapsed. Those that were at the Mass surrounded him and when a pulse could not be found, he was thought to be dead. The Pope then "came to", having collapsed in a state of ecstasy. He then related what he had experienced.From in front of the Tabernacle, he had heard a confrontation between Jesus and Satan. Satan was bragging to Jesus that if he had enough time and enough power, he could destroy the Church. Jesus asked him "How much time and how much power?" Satan replied he would need a century and more influence over those that would give themselves to him. Jesus said, "So be it." The 20th Century is the century that was given to him to test the world.The Pope was quite shaken having heard this and went immediately to write the Exorcism Prayer, of which the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel is the short version. Pope Leo XIII also knew that the Rosary would be the weapon that would defeat Satan. He went on to write 13 Encyclicals on the Rosary.

 

http://www.catholicparents.org/oxcart/StMichael.html

[PhuturePriest]

The Prayer of St. Michael the Archangel goes back to the late 19th Century. In 1884, Pope Leo XIII was finishing Mass and was walking away from the Tabernacle when he collapsed. Those that were at the Mass surrounded him and when a pulse could not be found, he was thought to be dead. The Pope then "came to", having collapsed in a state of ecstasy. He then related what he had experienced.From in front of the Tabernacle, he had heard a confrontation between Jesus and Satan. Satan was bragging to Jesus that if he had enough time and enough power, he could destroy the Church. Jesus asked him "How much time and how much power?" Satan replied he would need a century and more influence over those that would give themselves to him. Jesus said, "So be it." The 20th Century is the century that was given to him to test the world.The Pope was quite shaken having heard this and went immediately to write the Exorcism Prayer, of which the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel is the short version. Pope Leo XIII also knew that the Rosary would be the weapon that would defeat Satan. He went on to write 13 Encyclicals on the Rosary.

 

http://www.catholicparents.org/oxcart/StMichael.html

 

Oh, okay. I am of course familiar with that, but I didn't know there was a particular name for it.

[Credo in Deum]

He is also the first Pope recorded on film.


http://youtu.be/cMbmF0vHhFw

[marigold]

The Prayer of St. Michael the Archangel goes back to the late 19th Century. In 1884, Pope Leo XIII was finishing Mass and was walking away from the Tabernacle when he collapsed. Those that were at the Mass surrounded him and when a pulse could not be found, he was thought to be dead. The Pope then "came to", having collapsed in a state of ecstasy. He then related what he had experienced.From in front of the Tabernacle, he had heard a confrontation between Jesus and Satan. Satan was bragging to Jesus that if he had enough time and enough power, he could destroy the Church. Jesus asked him "How much time and how much power?" Satan replied he would need a century and more influence over those that would give themselves to him. Jesus said, "So be it." The 20th Century is the century that was given to him to test the world.The Pope was quite shaken having heard this and went immediately to write the Exorcism Prayer, of which the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel is the short version. Pope Leo XIII also knew that the Rosary would be the weapon that would defeat Satan. He went on to write 13 Encyclicals on the Rosary.

 

http://www.catholicparents.org/oxcart/StMichael.html

 

Maybe I'm just being cheese brained, but I don't understand the edifying implications of this story... ?

[Amppax]

This discussion is interesting. The advent of teaching popes during the 19th century is, I think, a large reason why so many of these Popes have been canonized, or are being considered. 

[PhuturePriest]

This discussion is interesting. The advent of teaching popes during the 19th century is, I think, a large reason why so many of these Popes have been canonized, or are being considered. 

 

Pope Leo XIII had a huge impact on the Church, and he wrote 13 encyclicals on Mary. You would think that if it were about teaching, he would be one of the first in line.

[MIKolbe]

yeah..totally

[Credo in Deum]

He's probably in heaven, flipping a cloud over this. Pius X and the Papa Johns are probably teasing Leo and calling him His Hopefulness up there. :hehe: