PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 People have the choice to NOT gorge themselves on Thanksgiving. I don't. But if you want to fast, go right ahead. Some members of my family get involved in soup kitchens and do charity work. Personally, though, given that in Church tradition we fast throughout the year -- I enjoy being Thankful by having food that is especially delicious and reserved for special occasions. Last year I celebrated my first Thanksgiving in years with my family which made it all the more meaningful because I live so far away from them. I've prepared two full Thanksgiving dinners and one Christmas turkey dinner. It's a bit like a little badge of honor, kind of like bomber airplanes that have stamps of conquered targets on the side -- my bomber would have three little turkey stamps. Halloween is pretty great, though. There's room for love to go around, why not love ALL the holidays!? I will only love the holidays that are not philosphically at odds with themselves in terms of practice. :| Also, Thanksgiving is boring. Sitting still or even just going back and forth in the kitchen is too inactive for me. I consider it a labor of love for my family and a job well done because I'm a fantastic cook. One of the best Thanksgivings I've had in recent years I spent the day cooking with my brother while the rest of my family hung out and played football or soccer in the backyard. Just because there's a bunch of food around doesn't mean you have to make a glutton of yourself. I don't make a glutton out of myself. As I said, I don't eat much, and I hate the feeling of being full. But most people eat ridiculous amounts, and it makes no sense in terms of the point of the holiday. Thanksgiving is supposed to make us thankful for what we have and remind us to be grateful. Having regular food in larger quantities doesn't make people more thankful, especially considering Black Friday is the next day. :| But let's not get onto the topic of that horrid bastion of materialism and consumerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You make a full turkey dinner on a regular basis? No wonder you don't like Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 You make a full turkey dinner on a regular basis? No wonder you don't like Thanksgiving. The idea of a "full" turkey dinner is overrated, first of all. Secondly, the quality of food is the same. Then again, I am a person who would rather eat Hamburger Helper than a turkey dinner, and that's coming from someone who likes turkey more than beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The idea of a "full" turkey dinner is overrated, first of all. Secondly, the quality of food is the same. Then again, I am a person who would rather eat Hamburger Helper than a turkey dinner, and that's coming from someone who likes turkey more than beef. So then you wouldn't really be giving up much by abstaining from traditional Thanksgiving fare anyway...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The idea of a "full" turkey dinner is overrated, first of all. Secondly, the quality of food is the same. Then again, I am a person who would rather eat Hamburger Helper than a turkey dinner, and that's coming from someone who likes turkey more than beef. I realized a long time ago that your opinion of food is not to be heeded. You don't like cheese, you don't like butter. You LIKE Hamburger Helper. This thread is utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 So then you wouldn't really be giving up much by abstaining from traditional Thanksgiving fare anyway...? I would if all I consumed was bread and water all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would if all I consumed was bread and water all day. But it wouldn't of any more "value" than if you were fasting on any other regular day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I realized a long time ago that your opinion of food is not to be heeded. You don't like cheese, you don't like butter. You LIKE Hamburger Helper. This thread is utter nonsense. You're wrong, actually. I don't dislike cheese, and I don't dislike butter. Rather, I loathe both of them with a fiery passion. The thread is not based upon my peculiar and perfectly valid taste, it is about the counter-productive aspect of Thanksgiving, which no one has been able to refute as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I will only love the holidays that are not philosphically at odds with themselves in terms of practice. :| Also, Thanksgiving is boring. Sitting still or even just going back and forth in the kitchen is too inactive for me. I don't make a glutton out of myself. As I said, I don't eat much, and I hate the feeling of being full. But most people eat ridiculous amounts, and it makes no sense in terms of the point of the holiday. Thanksgiving is supposed to make us thankful for what we have and remind us to be grateful. Having regular food in larger quantities doesn't make people more thankful, especially considering Black Friday is the next day. :| But let's not get onto the topic of that horrid bastion of materialism and consumerism. See, the idea that we eat "regular" food on Thanksgiving is a foreign concept to me. I work two jobs and don't have time to prepare or enjoy a home cooked meal of several specialties fully cooked from scratch. For me, holiday meals involve traditional holiday recipes in the family that are only enjoyed a couple of times a year. That is what makes them special. We shouldn't let the folly of others ruin our holidays. Otherwise we probably wouldn't be able to celebrate much of anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwOU3bnuU0k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 There's this funny thing called self control, wherein one determines how much food to put in ones mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 But it wouldn't of any more "value" than if you were fasting on any other regular day? It does if you make it a day of fasting in remembrance of how well you have it in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 There's this funny thing called self control, wherein one determines how much food to put in ones mouth. Read the thread, you did not. Disappointed, I am. Surprised, I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) The thread is not based upon my peculiar and perfectly valid taste, it is about the counter-productive aspect of Thanksgiving, which no one has been able to refute as of yet. I'll help: "Prayers of thanks and special thanksgiving ceremonies are common among almost all religions after harvests and at other times.[2] The Thanksgiving holiday's history in North America is rooted in English traditions dating from the ProtestantReformation. It also has aspects of a harvest festival, even though the harvest in New England occurs well before the late-November date on which the modern Thanksgiving holiday is celebrated.[2][3] In the English tradition, days of thanksgiving and special thanksgiving religious services became important during theEnglish Reformation in the reign of Henry VIII and in reaction to the large number of religious holidays on the Catholic calendar. Before 1536 there were 95 Church holidays, plus 52 Sundays, when people were required to attend church and forego work and sometimes pay for expensive celebrations. The 1536 reforms reduced the number of Church holidays to 27, but some Puritans wished to completely eliminate all Church holidays, including Christmas and Easter. The holidays were to be replaced by specially called Days of Fasting or Days of Thanksgiving, in response to events that the Puritans viewed as acts of special providence. Unexpected disasters or threats of judgement from on high called for Days of Fasting. Special blessings, viewed as coming from God, called for Days of Thanksgiving." From wikipedia Edited September 7, 2014 by Vincent Vega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Read the thread, you did not. Disappointed, I am. Surprised, I am not. Nope. I read it. Read it again to be sure. Still my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'll help: "Prayers of thanks and special thanksgiving ceremonies are common among almost all religions after harvests and at other times.[2] The Thanksgiving holiday's history in North America is rooted in English traditions dating from the ProtestantReformation. It also has aspects of a harvest festival, even though the harvest in New England occurs well before the late-November date on which the modern Thanksgiving holiday is celebrated.[2][3] In the English tradition, days of thanksgiving and special thanksgiving religious services became important during theEnglish Reformation in the reign of Henry VIII and in reaction to the large number of religious holidays on the Catholic calendar. Before 1536 there were 95 Church holidays, plus 52 Sundays, when people were required to attend church and forego work and sometimes pay for expensive celebrations. The 1536 reforms reduced the number of Church holidays to 27, but some Puritans wished to completely eliminate all Church holidays, including Christmas and Easter. The holidays were to be replaced by specially called Days of Fasting or Days of Thanksgiving, in response to events that the Puritans viewed as acts of special providence. Unexpected disasters or threats of judgement from on high called for Days of Fasting. Special blessings, viewed as coming from God, called for Days of Thanksgiving." From wikipedia When will America learn not to take ideas from protestants? Prohibition and five 8-hour work days all could have been avoided if we didn't allow protestants to influence our lives so much. We could all be taking naps during work time like they do in Spain had the Spanish colonized North America and not the Puritans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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