Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I'm looking at an illuminated manuscript which has a couple of illustrations of St Anastasia. In both of them, she's with someone named Jurdan (Iurdan/Jordan?) - in one image she's in his house, and in the other he's about to kill her. I'm interested in working out who he was exactly and if he features in the story of Anastasia, but haven't found anything really to guide me. Anyone heard of him before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Is this the same Anastasia? http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's her! Anastasia of Sirmium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Then I think the person is either Publius her husband or Florus her captor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) I thought something similar at first, but I'm not too sure. The image I'm most focused on has a caption underneath which essentially translates from French to: "Mary and Joseph arriving at the house of Jurdan", and in the other image showing her martyrdom, Jurdan is referenced again. I sense that if the person was either her husband or captor, the accompanying caption would mention him by name. Here's the illustration if anyone would like to see. I love it. :) http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMINBig.ASP?size=big&IllID=29109 Edited August 20, 2014 by Spem in alium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Do you have the picture of her martyrdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yep. It references Jurdan again underneath - "Cy Jurdan de'cole Anestace". http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMINBig.ASP?size=big&IllID=29110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hmmm... :detective: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Well Spem I know this is a stretch but this is what I have been able to find. Cy is short for Cyrus, however, I think it can be short for Cyril. Then I also found this: Anastasia II Martyr, whose history is the subject of legends. She is believed to have been a young woman who lived with a group of Christian virgins in Rome. During the persecutions of Emperor Valerian, she was arrested and cruelly tortured by a perfect named Probus. When she asked for some water, a man named Cyril brought her some. For this kindness he shared her fate in beheading.http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=1353I'm thinking this Cyril fellow who shared the same fate as Anastasia could be the one mentioned/depicted in the picture. That is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 I like that, Credo! Hadn't heard of that Anastasia before. And good old Cyril! :) Though I do think my Anastasia is different - she is pictured on the same page as the Nativity of Christ, which seems to tie in with the fact that her feast is on December 25. Plus, the man in the martyrdom image looks somewhat more violent than our Cyril seems to be. I was thinking it may perhaps have something to do with the translation as the captions are in Old French. Perhaps it references Jordan as a place? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I like that, Credo! Hadn't heard of that Anastasia before. And good old Cyril! :) Though I do think my Anastasia is different - she is pictured on the same page as the Nativity of Christ, which seems to tie in with the fact that her feast is on December 25. Plus, the man in the martyrdom image looks somewhat more violent than our Cyril seems to be. I was thinking it may perhaps have something to do with the translation as the captions are in Old French. Perhaps it references Jordan as a place? I have no idea. I was thinking the same thing about the language. Maybe a Anglo French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 I was thinking the same thing about the language. Maybe a Anglo French? Ah, good point. I just did a search and Old French was spoken (as Anglo-Norman) in England during the time the manuscript was produced. It was also the language of the royalty, and it's thought the manuscript's patron was a member of the royal family so there's some match there. Jurdan (or Iurdan) is definitely a name, though of what or whom I'm not yet sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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