I'm Sorry, Robin Williams, Suicide Is Selfish

[blazeingstar]

Pull the beam out of your own eye. Use it to smash your computer.

 

Please.

 

There are many things I could reply to you with.  Most of them are not phatmass safe.  So I'll just roll my eyes, like I always do at you.

 

 

Maybe if you followed the links, you'd understand better.

 

I also recommend using google as a dictionary. It will help you with the larger ones.

 

I didn't mean comprehding  I meant bla-bla-bla psycobabble.  It's so focused on one aspect it completely looses touch with the other and while it ended with Catholic teaching it wasn't the point I was trying to make.

[Ice_nine]

 I have friends whom I like and most have children that, when identifying me by surprize, will come running towards me with exclimations of joy.

 

Like Kin-Jong-Un!

 

 

They fear you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(JK, but most of us, I assume, do not know you in real life but only thru your posts on the internet, which have been just a wee bit abrasive).

[blazeingstar]

Like Kin-Jong-Un!

 

 

They fear you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(JK, but most of us, I assume, do not know you in real life but only thru your posts on the internet, which have been just a wee bit abrasive).

 

 

Except Kin-Jong-Un has actual reasons to fear him, wilst I do not.  not out of the relm of possibility that I am likable tho.

[Credo in Deum]

Get back on topic, people.

[Ice_nine]

Except Kin-Jong-Un has actual reasons to fear him, wilst I do not.  not out of the relm of possibility that I am likable tho.

 

It was a bad joke, plz don't take it too seriously.

 

But the point stands that most people on here only know you by the posts you write. That's why you get the backlash, however much of a charming person you are in other arenas of your life.

[Norseman82]

What compels you to be so consistently toxic and vile? It is just very weird. I do not think I have seen you act pleasantly in a single thread the whole time you have been here.
Does it not weigh you down, being like this every day?

 

Well, considering that this latest outburst is not a multiple of 28 days after the start of this thread, it's most likely not due to "that thing", if you get what I mean. 

[Lilllabettt]

Well, considering that this latest outburst is not a multiple of 28 days after the start of this thread, it's most likely not due to "that thing", if you get what I mean. 

 

Just fyi bringing that up in a conversation about a woman's choice of behavior ranks right near the top of the cad list.  Were you raised with the barn door open or what. 

 

Basically that shows all the girls of the world a big flashing neon sign that says "I am not a gentleman, avoid me self-respecting women of any type."  Cuz like 99% of all young women have "that thing" and 99% of them are grossed out when a man degrades them by suggesting the possibility that their feelings, opinions, and behavior choices should be chalked up to that.  

 

How about you try disagreeing with her on the merits. You know like you would disagree with somebody who has a penis. 

Edited September 21, 2014 by Lilllabettt

[Norseman82]

Just fyi bringing that up in a conversation about a woman's choice of behavior ranks right near the top of the cad list.  Were you raised with the barn door open or what. 

 

Basically that shows all the girls of the world a big flashing neon sign that says "I am not a gentleman, avoid me self-respecting women of any type."  Cuz like 99% of all young women have "that thing" and 99% of them are grossed out when a man degrades them by suggesting the possibility that their feelings, opinions, and behavior choices should be chalked up to that.  

 

How about you try disagreeing with her on the merits. You know like you would disagree with somebody who has a penis. 

 

Her vileness has no merits. 

 

If she wants to be treated like a lady, she should start acting like one. 

[Norseman82]

Just fyi bringing that up in a conversation about a woman's choice of behavior ranks right near the top of the cad list.  Were you raised with the barn door open or what. 

 

Basically that shows all the girls of the world a big flashing neon sign that says "I am not a gentleman, avoid me self-respecting women of any type."  Cuz like 99% of all young women have "that thing" and 99% of them are grossed out when a man degrades them by suggesting the possibility that their feelings, opinions, and behavior choices should be chalked up to that.  

 

How about you try disagreeing with her on the merits. You know like you would disagree with somebody who has a penis. 

 

Like it or not, it is scientific fact that that "condition" does affect mood and behavior. 

 

Additionally, per a talk by Fr. Grob last week at my parish on the reality of evil in the world, when evaluating a person for demonic possession, an exorcist must account for the natural/scientific/medical explanations of a phenomenom.

[blazeingstar]

Well, considering that this latest outburst is not a multiple of 28 days after the start of this thread, it's most likely not due to "that thing", if you get what I mean. 

 

 

Wow, that's low.  Plus, I've been like this for years, you probably forget who I am, but I know that we've had some run in's over the single life as a permanent vocation.  EG.  You don't believe in it at all.  I think that it is rare, but blessed by God.  I've seen in in action.

 

Her vileness has no merits. 

 

If she wants to be treated like a lady, she should start acting like one. 

 

I actually don't have any particular inclination to "be treated like a lady"  What in the world is that supposed to mean anyway?  That I'm meant to keep my opinions to myself?  Sorry, no.

 

I see the result of sin and I'm disgusted by it.  You've gone out on a limb many times regarding abortion.  Yet why is that sin any "sinier" that this one?  

 

Fact is, God does not call us to do what He himself does not.  Lillabet has pointed this out.  Both sides on this issue have been stated.  My side with the idea that suicide is a dangerous contageon that threatens the lives of others, damages society gravely and calls for mercy towards those afflicted by that sin.  And others who simply point out, over and over, that it's soley an unstoppable force and a mental health issue that can't be overcome.  

 

I do think it can be overcome.  I know someone who was deeply suicidal on a daily basis for 20 years, way before I met him.  However he faught it, and when it comes back from time to time he does fight it.  Had he "given up" or followed one of his other friends down that path (he's lost 3 friends to suicide) I would not be who I am today.  He's like a second father to me.    Then you have my other friend who was in the midst of a chain of suicides (non-biological uncle, father, her, friend, etc) their lives are over, they stopped fighting and the pain of what they did affects so many.  I am no longer friends with her mom and sister on FB becuase they constantly post stuff about how it was good that she is finally happy.  Yet, how they are dealing with the sister's 14yo adopted son being suicidal is scarry.  the "Do what you can" method.  They get him meds and therepy and what not but they have told him "don't live for me".  I find that repulsive.  I am plenty happy "guiliting" a person to stay alive if all it takes  is saying, I don't want you to die.

[Lilllabettt]

Her vileness has no merits. 

 

If she wants to be treated like a lady, she should start acting like one. 

 

 

Well then disagree with her because it has no merits. She being a young woman of reproductive age has nothing to do with the quality of her argument.

 

And girls do not need to do anything to "deserve" your respect. In fact you can tell a lot about a man by the way he treats the type of women proper society deems "unrespectable." 

Edited September 21, 2014 by Lilllabettt

[Lilllabettt]

 I am no longer friends with her mom and sister on FB becuase they constantly post stuff about how it was good that she is finally happy.  Yet, how they are dealing with the sister's 14yo adopted son being suicidal is scarry.  the "Do what you can" method.  They get him meds and therepy and what not but they have told him "don't live for me".  

 

 

That is extremely sad and disturbing.

[Norseman82]

Wow, that's low.  Plus, I've been like this for years, you probably forget who I am, but I know that we've had some run in's over the single life as a permanent vocation.  EG.  You don't believe in it at all.  I think that it is rare, but blessed by God.  I've seen in in action.

 

 

I actually don't have any particular inclination to "be treated like a lady"  What in the world is that supposed to mean anyway?  That I'm meant to keep my opinions to myself?  Sorry, no.

 

I see the result of sin and I'm disgusted by it.  You've gone out on a limb many times regarding abortion.  Yet why is that sin any "sinier" that this one?  

 

Fact is, God does not call us to do what He himself does not.  Lillabet has pointed this out.  Both sides on this issue have been stated.  My side with the idea that suicide is a dangerous contageon that threatens the lives of others, damages society gravely and calls for mercy towards those afflicted by that sin.  And others who simply point out, over and over, that it's soley an unstoppable force and a mental health issue that can't be overcome.  

 

I do think it can be overcome.  I know someone who was deeply suicidal on a daily basis for 20 years, way before I met him.  However he faught it, and when it comes back from time to time he does fight it.  Had he "given up" or followed one of his other friends down that path (he's lost 3 friends to suicide) I would not be who I am today.  He's like a second father to me.    Then you have my other friend who was in the midst of a chain of suicides (non-biological uncle, father, her, friend, etc) their lives are over, they stopped fighting and the pain of what they did affects so many.  I am no longer friends with her mom and sister on FB becuase they constantly post stuff about how it was good that she is finally happy.  Yet, how they are dealing with the sister's 14yo adopted son being suicidal is scarry.  the "Do what you can" method.  They get him meds and therepy and what not but they have told him "don't live for me".  I find that repulsive.  I am plenty happy "guiliting" a person to stay alive if all it takes  is saying, I don't want you to die.

 

I do not know if you had a previous screen name so I cannot recall any previous run-ins we've had from years back. 

 

However, you need to step back and realize that if you encounter a distraught person on a high ledge, your tone is not the way to talk to him/her out of jumping off the ledge - in fact, there is a chance it might cause the opposite effect and cause them to jump. 

[Norseman82]

In fact you can tell a lot about a man by the way he treats the type of women proper society deems "unrespectable." 

 

So a man must put up with abuse from a woman or else he is a cad who was born with the barn door wide open?  Is this what I'm gathering? 

 

Sorry, I don't buy that. 

[Lilllabettt]

So a man must put up with abuse from a woman or else he is a cad who was born with the barn door wide open?  Is this what I'm gathering? 

 

Sorry, I don't buy that. 

 

 

Objecting to, calling out, or putting a stop to abuse of any kind does not make a man a cad. 

Publicly considering the possibility that a young woman's behavior or thought process may be down to her menstrual cycle does not make a man a cad but it is a caddish thing to do and a sign of poor breeding. 

 

FYI conceding the argument does not mean admitting that you are a cad, just that you made an error. Many men slip in this area for many reasons not least of which because so many women cheer them on instead of putting them on point about it. So consider yourself put on point.