EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 MorphRC, What don't you follow anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 i haven't read this entire conversation, but these might help: [b]Salvation Outside the Church[/b] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=1203"]Ignorance: Invincible and Vincible[/url] --[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/How_to_Become_a_Catholic.asp"]How to Become a Catholic[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=964"]Is There Salvation Outside the Church?[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/FEENEY2.TXT"]Leonard Freeney on "No Salvation Outside the Church"[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/FEENEY.TXT"]Tragic Errors of Leonard Freeney[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/EXTRAECC.TXT"]No Salvation Outside the Church[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=4084"]Salvation Outside the Church[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/CHURCHSA.TXT"]Which Church Saves?[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=3447"]The Necessity of Being Catholic[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=674"]Is There Salvation Outside the Church?[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=4085"]Can Outsiders Be Insiders?[/url] --[url="http://cuf.org/member/withoutchurch.pdf"]Without the Church There Is No Salvation[/url] --[url="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/salvation.html"]Who Will Be Saved?[/url] --[url="http://www.catholic-defense.com/no_salvation.htm"]No Salvation Outside the Church?[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/THEOLOGY/SPIRCATH.htm#10"]The Church Necessary for Salvation[/url] --[url="http://css.catholicexchange.com/truthtract.asp?qid=67"]If "No Salvation Outside the Church" Is Infallible, How Can We Say Today that People Outside Can Be Saved?[/url] --[url="http://matt1618.freeyellow.com/critic2.html"]"Mr. Critic" and Salvation Outside the Catholic Church[/url] pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Morph, after my nice analogy and everything, the best you can do is [quote]Quotes arent out of context. So dont try that line[/quote] I'm no apologist, but please, the least you can do is address my argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary's Knight, La Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 to re-frame thedude's question: what do you follow now, morph? seems to me you follow what you think someone else meant when they wrote something without finding out what they *actually* meant... almost like an archaeologist finding a jumble of bones and trying to construct a creature out of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 phatcatholic, There are some great quotes from the Fathers on this issue too. They are at Catholic Answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 [quote name='JeffCR07' date='Jun 22 2004, 09:08 AM'] Morph, after my nice analogy and everything, the best you can do is I'm no apologist, but please, the least you can do is address my argument [/quote] I dont need to. Your arguement was based on 'Out of Context' line as most of the people, play. There not, therefore no need to answer you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 morphRC, read the articles i provided and u will find that the present teaching of the church on "outside church no salvation" DOES NOT in fact contradict the testimony of the ECF's. pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 i feel that enough information has been given from both sides of the argument so as to appease the inquiring mind. furthermore, to allow this dialogue to continue would be to encourage debate in this board. therefore, i am closing this thread. pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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