ithinkjesusiscool Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 We have some great Theological texts in the Bible but most of the great Theological works are not in the Bible. I, personaly, have never heard of any Theologians that lived in the time of the Old Testament (except those mentioned in the Bible). Neither do we really celebrate saints of the OT period. Could please explain this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 We have some great Theological texts in the Bible but most of the great Theological works are not in the Bible. I, personaly, have never heard of any Theologians that lived in the time of the Old Testament (except those mentioned in the Bible). Neither do we really celebrate saints of the OT period. Could please explain this? FYI, We actually do consider the Old Testament Prophets and Patriarchs saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 What Amppax said, plus I'd argue that the main point of celebrating saints is having examples of how to follow Christ, and the OT is before Christ. And the time of the Old Testament is a HUGE span, like a few thousand years. People did theology in somewhat different ways than we do now. A lot of it had to do with studying the Torah, and other holy books. Most people would listen to what their local rabbi had to say about things. And when two rabbis had different opinions about a passage, both were considered to be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkjesusiscool Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 What Amppax said, plus I'd argue that the main point of celebrating saints is having examples of how to follow Christ, and the OT is before Christ. And the time of the Old Testament is a HUGE span, like a few thousand years. People did theology in somewhat different ways than we do now. A lot of it had to do with studying the Torah, and other holy books. Most people would listen to what their local rabbi had to say about things. And when two rabbis had different opinions about a passage, both were considered to be fine. How was that different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillion Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 There was no Jesus to follow, he hadn't been born yet. The Old Testament way was about being true to The Law - a set of Rules. Jesus replaced The Law, he is The Word. He fulfilled the Law. So instead of having a relationship with a rather judgemental God who was distant and omnipotent, we have Jesus who shared our humanity and with whom we can be close and have a personal relationship. I'm not saying people didn't have a personal relationship with God in the long distant past, but it was not a familial/familiar one. It was about being made righteous by doing things right. Part of what Jesus revealed about God was that He is Father. This was new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 There was no Jesus to follow, he hadn't been born yet. The Old Testament way was about being true to The Law - a set of Rules. Jesus replaced The Law, he is The Word. He fulfilled the Law. So instead of having a relationship with a rather judgemental God who was distant and omnipotent, we have Jesus who shared our humanity and with whom we can be close and have a personal relationship. I'm not saying people didn't have a personal relationship with God in the long distant past, but it was not a familial/familiar one. It was about being made righteous by doing things right. Part of what Jesus revealed about God was that He is Father. This was new. And being righteous and doing things correctly is no longer important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillion Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I didn't say that it was no longer important. Read what is there not what you imagine is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I didn't say that it was no longer important. Read what is there not what you imagine is there. I was asking for clarification, because your post can be read wrongly. I knew what you were saying, but keep in mind there are many lurkers who don't, and who "hear what you're not saying", as one Dominican priest puts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillion Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just saw this written by Marigold a couple of days ago. No, I'd start with the four gospels - of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They're the accounts of Christ's life and death, and his teachings about the Kingdom and the fulfilment of everything that happened in the Old Testament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porziuncola Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just saw this written by Marigold a couple of days ago. ...and...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 And the time of the Old Testament is a HUGE span, like a few thousand years. People did theology in somewhat different ways than we do now. A lot of it had to do with studying the Torah, and other holy books. Most people would listen to what their local rabbi had to say about things. And when two rabbis had different opinions about a passage, both were considered to be fine. This sounds similar to modern day Protestantism, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I would say Israelite kings, priests, and prophets all helped fill the role of what we call a theologian today. Outside of Judaism, you could also look to any of the philosophers who are found in almost every civilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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