cappie Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2014/07/what-that-church-of-england-vote-is-really-about.html Sad article but a good commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Equality is a bs concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Equality is a bs concept Says the white dude. :) But seriously, I agree with Fr - good commentary, albeit sad. There are a few Anglican parishes in my diocese that converted over a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Very interesting article, and something I hadn't really thought about. But having lived in England for about 3 years, I can see that they have a strong identity with being the Church of ENGLAND. I think even some of those who actually changed to the Ordinariate found it hard to subsume the national identity of their faith to their spiritual identity of wanting to be in Communion with the Catholic Church. There definitely has been a split for the Anglicans - whose who were truly Anglo-Catholic have had to choose between Protestantism and Catholicism now that the division has been made so clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGirlForever Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I heard awhile ago that Anglo-Catholics were asking the Pope for an Anglican rite to the Catholic Church, so they could keep their traditions alive. I have no idea what became of it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I heard awhile ago that Anglo-Catholics were asking the Pope for an Anglican rite to the Catholic Church, so they could keep their traditions alive. I have no idea what became of it, though. More the other way around actually. Pope Benedict constructed a set of principles by which they could retain a legitimate Anglo patrimony while becoming truly Catholic. There have been a few hiccups, but it has worked quite well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) As an American Catholic living in England I found the article really interesting. They have so many beautiful churches and chapels but they're empty. This is just another reason for many frustrated high Anglicans to come have a nice little swim across the Tiber. I would love to see them bring their churches with them. We have cookies and tacos. I have chilled wine. Edited July 18, 2014 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 So the original split was a political move, the tractarians tried to get more in touch with the theology, and the ordaining of female bishops is another political move. I know there are always political overtones to the practice of religion, but I still always feel that one's religious practice ought to be an expression of one's theology rather than one's politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 So the original split was a political move, the tractarians tried to get more in touch with the theology, and the ordaining of female bishops is another political move. I know there are always political overtones to the practice of religion, but I still always feel that one's religious practice ought to be an expression of one's theology rather than one's politics. Good observation -- I have spent a considerable amount of time in England and Sweden, where both countries have a state church, yet they rank among some of the lowest rates of church attendance and interest in religion worldwide, even lower attendance than countries with a lot of indifferent cultural Catholics. I don't claim to know the answers and secular culture affects every country, even places like Poland -- but in places that had a state Protestant Church, it would seem the interest and attendance has been particularly low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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