Luigi Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 http://www.aleteia.org/en/society/article/oklahoma-bishop-compares-black-mass-to-burning-the-koran-5808359336837120 Really? A Black Mass as Civic Center entertainment? Would the Civic Center hold an old-fashioned minstrel show with white musicians in blackface? Or would that be considered to insulting to some of the citizenry? Black Mass as entertainment. What WILL they think of next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Domine, quo vadis? Oklahoma City vado iterum crucifigi! If this does go forward, Catholic's should think of a way to get that consecrated host back. Edited July 11, 2014 by Credo in Deum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Yeah I saw that and sent it forward on facebook. I think it's incredible. I know one thing -- you know that after that Black Mass I wouldn't step near that civic center again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) It's a shame that this is being sponsored so openly. The one good thing that can come despite this is that it can help galvanize Catholics and get us into active response rather than standing slack jawed in the communion line like so many do, Sunday after Sunday, not thinking much about it. It's a reminder that, yes, the Eucharist means something. Will keep this in my prayers. Edited July 11, 2014 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The problem is that the Catholic response in Boston wasn't really completely appropriate. They should of made everyone at every parish in the dicese guard communion with their lives. No Eucharist, no Black Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The problem is that the Catholic response in Boston wasn't really completely appropriate. They should of made everyone at every parish in the dicese guard communion with their lives. No Eucharist, no Black Mass. Unfortunately I think it's very easy to obtain a Host for illicit purposes. Not to start a debate but communion in the hand coupled with blase attitude of many priests and communicants makes it even easier. How does one guard against that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) It's a shame that this is being sponsored so openly. Yeah, that's a difference between the Black Mass at Harvard and this one. Harvard is privately funded - you could call it a public institution because it's so well known, but it's basically a private school. This one, being in a civic center, is tax supported to some degree or another. Edited July 11, 2014 by Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I haven't lived in the U.S. for a few years but has the black mass always been this open? I just don't recall the Church of Satan ever getting this kind of open recognition or respect before. Previously they were just relegated to appearances on shock talk shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I haven't lived in the U.S. for a few years but has the black mass always been this open? I just don't recall the Church of Satan ever getting this kind of open recognition or respect before. Previously they were just relegated to appearances on shock talk shows. I have a feeling they saw the publicity that the planned Harvard event generated, and decided to double down on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I haven't lived in the U.S. for a few years but has the black mass always been this open? I just don't recall the Church of Satan ever getting this kind of open recognition or respect before. Previously they were just relegated to appearances on shock talk shows. It's a sign of the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Most Okies are really riled up. I expect a spectacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I can't believe this is happening again... Brings tears to my eyes. :( Also, I find the picture in the article rather disturbing. Honestly, if satan is lord of the underworld, why would the woman be lifting the chalice up rather than down? It may be miniscule in comparison to the topic at hand but I really wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Unfortunately, the public ones are pointing to a greater reality of the private "religious" ones. :( As "entertainment" they are all playing with fire. We must fast & pray & use these terrible events to promote ever greater devotion, reparation & love to Jesus in the Most Blessed Sacrament. It is a sign of the times & I believe we are only seeing the beginning. We are the Church Militant & it has been said our Mother wears combat boots. We must not be afraid. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superblue Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Unfortunately I think it's very easy to obtain a Host for illicit purposes. Not to start a debate but communion in the hand coupled with blase attitude of many priests and communicants makes it even easier. How does one guard against that? not trying to spin this either into how one should receive communion, but there is a saying, locks are not meant to keep bad people out, but are meant to keep good people honest. One can easily receive communion by mouth only, and not consume and simply remove the host and pocket the host. The absolute only way to prevent such an atrocity would be to have recipient not only receive by the mouth, but to stand in front of the priest or the EOM consume the host, and then open ones mouth again to show they have indeed consumed the host. OR the other option, since Christ is fully present in the body and blood, one could in turn reserve the host for clergy only and everyone just receives by the cup only, good luck trying to do something with the blood of Christ.so not being funny, those are the only real two ways one can prevent such a thing from happening. I have literally seen a priest at the Cathedral I go to from time to time, was way back, but I did see him once, chase down a recipient and grab him and tell him that he must consume the host, and that was the end of that, no arguing, no knock down fight. , at this point in time when a topic like this comes up and turns out to be true, I would like to think, that God, Christ and the Holy Spirit can take of the problem themselves, the only other thing to do would be to form a new Knights Templar and send them in to retrieve the host. An we know that is not going to happen, if anything I feel sorry for people who do such things, they are only screwing themselves over in the long run, perhaps even for eternity. So if that is the case, who really gets the last laugh. I guess the question is, does one really want to pray for those who do such things that they may be sorry for what they have done an turn to Christ and the Church for forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Like Superblue said, it's not necessarly just by mouth, but ensuring that the Eucharist is consumed. We have gotten very complacient with distribution of Communion. I don't think that hand vs. tounge makes it that much easier (as one could have a dry mouth and then pocket it anyway) but the laxidasial attitude is far worse and more dangerous. Remember people have been stealing hosts for centuries.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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