Perigrina Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 My political beliefs depend on whether Winchester or Hasan said the wittiest thing in the thread. I am so apolitical that I cannot even tell the difference between Winchester's and Hasan's positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am so apolitical that I cannot even tell the difference between Winchester's and Hasan's positions. Hasan likes government, Winchester is an anarchist and believes there shouldn't be a government at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 If that's true... Win, what do you think of anarcho-capitalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 This thread has turned out different than I'd hoped. I was hoping we'd be talking about cool hermits and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) I'm a trad but a non-traditional trad. Some of my brothers and sisters awakened to the Crisis and seeking restoration also want to restore a past culture. I have little affinity for the 1950's or crowning some languid European noble who rests on the laurels of his ancestors. In some sense our culture has evolved but without spiritual direction it's becoming an amorphous mass resenting the system but not taking the proper steps to overcome it. And so it interests me greatly when I discover people who are awake, possess some spiritual awareness, but are not Catholic. In a sense, lost souls, albeit closer to reality than many others, and sadly many Catholics as well. Michael C Ruppert seems to have been such a person, sadly he committed suicide earlier this year. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNVHbzlzUS8[/youtube] Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWdeTERAsc Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvRJN2rblp4 Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCz_xEp_4yA Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPmxQqn3tg Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBwH0_EP5zo Yea... so I'm a hippie trad Far out, man. Edited July 7, 2014 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I really enjoy watching Vice and their ventures off the beaten path, so I look forward to watching these later when I have time. I probably am similar to you -- as an artist I befriend a pretty wide variety of people -- deep thinkers of various walks of life. I have never known how to describe my traditionalism, because I don't fit into the "Let's go back to the 50s and register Republican" definition, either. Though it's probably not fair to describe all traditionalists as being this way, because true tradition is universal and timeless. I will keep Mr. Ruppert in my prayers. Traditionalism is a spirit of preservation and restoration. It is concerned with preserving and restoring the things which are, or are an expression of, what is sacred in our Catholic Faith; eternal truths which are not fixed in one point in time. I personally have never met any Trad's that believe we should revert back to the 50's, so I don't believe Mortify, you are as rare as you might think you are. ;) i currently attend an FSSP parish, though I don't really consider myself a "Trad." My old parish (in another state) had a Tridentine mass that I actually rarely attended because it was in the afternoon. I have little affinity (or patience) with the extreme "Rad Trad" set, though I/m definitely towards the conservative end of the Catholic spectrum, and prefer the reverence and tradition of the old Latin Mass to how the NO mass is said in most places. From my experiences at my current parish, and the people I know there and elsewhere, I'd say there are probably many people who attend the Traditional Latin Mass who don't really fit the whole "trad" stereotype (though some do). I've never gotten the impression that Traditionalists are all obsessed with the 1950s. Though it was far from an ideal utopia, I and most trads would regard it as in general a much saner and more decent time than our own. It seems liberals often invoke the '50s in a negative or mocking sense to dismiss "culturally conservative" ideals, such as traditional sex roles, a married two-parent family (with a man and a woman), standards of sexual morality, etc., as if such timeless moral and societal standards were nothing more than a misguided nostalgia for a particular past decade. I'd say it is true that most Trads are politically conservatives of some stripe or another, though this is not because of some blind loyalty and devotion to the Republican Party. I, and most serious conservatives, are not happy with the direction the Party leadership is going, though the Democratic Party remains even worse. I can see no reason why any traditional Catholic would wish to affiliate with the Party of abortion and socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mortify ii Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_xGu-9Jyk[/youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Times like this I would really prefer a pub and a pint to the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) If that's true... Win, what do you think of anarcho-capitalism? I support it. There is no other way to wash the blood from out hands than to choose the logical and inevitably best position of anarcho-capitalism in politics. *Note to self: stop responding from hacked accounts in the future. ~ Win. Edited July 8, 2014 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 the silent reproach of a million tear-stained eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 the silent reproach of a million tear-stained eyes Words are very, unnecessary. They can only do us harm. Enjoy the silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Words are very, unnecessary. They can only do us harm. Enjoy the silence. are you from Trenzalore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 are you from Trenzalore? Silence will fall when the question is asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://youtu.be/Yd0fBXwDBmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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