mortify ii Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Another possibility is the change we've had at the top. maybe more dissenters feel emboldened, have stopped whispering to themselves that the faith is wrong, got the courage to tell others it is. Although it has been a year and like I said it seems less random than that. Changes at the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereseMaria Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Is wanting to be Catholic sufficient condition for actually being Catholic? Or, as in the question I posed a page or two ago, are there conditions under which a person, while desiring to be Catholic, is deprived of communion with the Church? What I meant by that was, that person would be expressing a desire to love God. In the end, only God knows that person's heart, and He will guide them to the truth, and along the path to holiness. Basically, it's no one else's place to judge whether or not a person is Catholic - that's God's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Changes at the top? Franciscus Edited June 25, 2014 by Lilllabettt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I don't know ... maybe the extent of "organization" is just someone posting a link somewhere. CAF seems possible to me because the presence of these opinions is not such an anomaly over there, and yet there it is dealt with swiftly in that cold, spiritless way that is customary at CAF. Another possibility is the change we've had at the top. maybe more dissenters feel emboldened, have stopped whispering to themselves that the faith is wrong, got the courage to tell others it is. Although it has been a year and like I said it seems less random than that. Maybe the National Catholic Reporter linked to us. :hehe: I am not sure what I think. It feels to me personally that some people have come to embrace a latent heterodoxy rather recently. I dunno. No one in particular whom I would care to talk about. Just kind of a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysostom Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Chillax and have a sense of humor mkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 What I meant by that was, that person would be expressing a desire to love God. In the end, only God knows that person's heart, and He will guide them to the truth, and along the path to holiness. Basically, it's no one else's place to judge whether or not a person is Catholic - that's God's job. But objectively speaking, could a person want to be Catholic and, through some fault of belief, actually be truly separated from the Church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 What I meant by that was, that person would be expressing a desire to love God. In the end, only God knows that person's heart, and He will guide them to the truth, and along the path to holiness. Basically, it's no one else's place to judge whether or not a person is Catholic - that's God's job. If someone says the Church teaches X but I disagree and believe Y, that person has separated themselves from the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Franciscus He seems to be polarizing a lot of folk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Maybe the National Catholic Reporter linked to us. :hehe: I am not sure what I think. It feels to me personally that some people have come to embrace a latent heterodoxy rather recently. I dunno. No one in particular whom I would care to talk about. Just kind of a feeling. well I hear that. And honestly recently it has felt like sometimes it is just me holding the line against the dissenting mob on here ... real or not that's been my feeling a couple times ... which I have to say is not something I ever expected to experience at phatmass. I appreciate it and am relieved when other people step up. so thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 He seems to be polarizing a lot of folk the whole thing was a brand new experience for the most senior people on down the line ... disruption is to be expected. takes time for everyone to adjust to the new situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 the whole thing was a brand new experience for the most senior people on down the line ... disruption is to be expected. takes time for everyone to adjust to the new situation. Is it to be expected? I kinda liked consistency, a solid foundation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Is it to be expected? I kinda liked consistency, a solid foundation... well me too but I donts everytime gets what I wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 well me too but I donts everytime gets what I wants. Gotta fight for what ya wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 well I hear that. And honestly recently it has felt like sometimes it is just me holding the line against the dissenting mob on here ... real or not that's been my feeling a couple times ... which I have to say is not something I ever expected to experience at phatmass. I appreciate it and am relieved when other people step up. so thank you. Well, if people are feeling similarly then there may be something that deserves attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Gotta fight for what ya wants if I really had that attitude I would be 1. obese 2. serving consecutive life sentences. this thread is dead. hopefully it will remain dead. and we have killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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