Nihil Obstat Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 From even the greatest of horrors irony is seldom absent. -- Tales of H.P. Lovecraft I struggled greatly to think of a response to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Excuse me, but I'm high on life. If you smoke marijuana Kevin Spacey will [spoiler alert] gas you in your own garage. OMG! I better start then! Id love to meet him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 oh my goodness (don't blasphemy)! I better start then! Id love to meet him! when you meet him ask him if he's gay or straight. he loves that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bus Station Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Chips and salsa for dinner is bad right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Chips and salsa for dinner is bad right it depends if it is mild medium or hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Our adopted son had a pot habit when we took him in. Sober, he is kind and loving. On just pot, he is paranoid and occasionally violent. Once he had a blackout and nearly beat a man to death. He has bipolar, so the weird reaction could be because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 when you meet him ask him if he's gay or straight. he loves that question. "he's as gay as pink ink, if you want to know." xxx drugs/caffeine/alcohol/meat are for the fat and weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Our adopted son had a pot habit when we took him in. Sober, he is kind and loving. On just pot, he is paranoid and occasionally violent. Once he had a blackout and nearly beat a man to death. He has bipolar, so the weird reaction could be because of that. I had friends that had to quit smoking around 30yo because weed gave them anxiety and heart palpitations. Sort of an amplified version of your run of the mill high paranoia, which normally gets easier to deal with the more you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 when you meet him ask him if he's gay or straight. he loves that question. I guess Ill have to if I want to be his friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Catholic Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I did have a good friend who was the CO of a fortune 500 company had a wife and family. He went to a party where someone offered him a marijuana laced brownie. He ingested it (whatever that means) and became immediately addicted. Within two weeks he had been fired from his job because of his addiction and supporting drug terrorists like Bin Laden. Living on the street he went made with rage and his family left him shortly after he overdosed after free basing some pot. Also scientists recently found out that Ted Bundy and most other serial killers are high on pot when they commit their crimes. #weednotevenonce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I can't say I've studied this in depth, but I'm of the opinion that smoking weed is neither good nor bad, moral nor immoral across the board. It really depends on the person and the situation. Anecdotally I find all the anti-weed hysteria kind of laughable. I might peruse this particular study later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) My two cents: We haven't done and may not ever be able to do enough science to determine from a purely scientistic standpoint what you ought to do in regard to marijuana. (and yes, I used that word specifically here, because when you want to use science to dictate morality, that's not science, that's scientism) We have done enough science to determine what sorts of mental and physical changes take place from marijuana use, both the good and the bad. From this the matter then becomes prudential: can we tolerate the negative effects of smoking it compared to the positive effects? I don't think our law is doing a good job of discerning this, because people seem to either want it to be always illegal or always legal, with no caveats. And as a very wise Dominican once told me, "Seldom affirm, never deny, and always ALWAYS qualify." Hence, when people say it should always be illegal/always legal and don't qualify their statements, especially in a situation where using it for the good would almost always entail a double-effect kind of situation, the lack of a qualifier of any kind makes me think it's fishy. Edited June 21, 2014 by arfink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perigrina Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 I did have a good friend who was the CO of a fortune 500 company had a wife and family. He went to a party where someone offered him a marijuana laced brownie. He ingested it (whatever that means) and became immediately addicted. Within two weeks he had been fired from his job because of his addiction and supporting drug terrorists like Bin Laden. Living on the street he went made with rage and his family left him shortly after he overdosed after free basing some pot. Also scientists recently found out that Ted Bundy and most other serial killers are high on pot when they commit their crimes. #weednotevenonce Personal anecdotes might not be strong evidence, but my opinion on the subject shifted significantly when I became acquainted with people who had detrimental experiences of marijuana. There is no good reason to mock people for telling personal stories. Or, if you are implying that they are lying, that is even worse than mockery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 im no sucker. https://www.fbijobs.gov/52.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Personal anecdotes might not be strong evidence, but my opinion on the subject shifted significantly when I became acquainted with people who had detrimental experiences of marijuana. There is no good reason to mock people for telling personal stories. Or, if you are implying that they are lying, that is even worse than mockery. There's a lot of people tho who use marijuana that you would never suspect because they are fairly normal and functioning. Out of all the people I know who use/used marijuana there's only one who I can think of who used the stuff as a crutch and a way to escape their own problems without dealing with them. That type of anecdotal evidence, about NOT being adversely affected doesn't grab headlines but it's been my general experience. "In today's news, Joe smoked a reefer on Saturday night and showed up to work Monday on time!" The church has had an interesting relationship with drugs. Mild stimulants seem to be OK, although I think coffee was considered a dirty Muslim thing in Christendom until the Pope tried it and was all "guys this stuff is aw.esome!!1!" In one diocese smoking tobacco got so out of hand you could incur excommunication for it. Kava is widely used in the South Pacific as an alternative to alcohol and church approval (I believe). I think when dealing with any substance there's an amount of cultural bias and fear. Prohibition has sort of driven marijuana culture into an unsavory direction and I think a lot of folks can't shake the association between the actual substance and the stereotypical user. However it's become so mainstream that there are likely many people you know who use marijuana on occasion but you'd never guess because they aren't saddled by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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