Ordinary Form Of The Mass In Latin

[fides' Jack]

Holy Ghost in Denver does pretty well with it.  But for high feasts like Christmas, they hire a full orchestra and often do Mozart masses, which I find not really conducive to prayer.  

 

Still about 10,000 steps above what I get for Sunday Mass, though.

[arfink]

And yet the Church has seen fit to remind the faithful insistently, all throughout Vatican II and afterwards that Latin, being the official and traditional language of the Latin Church, must be retained and its use has spiritual value for Latin Catholics.

If you do not like it then fine, but the Church is clear that there is spiritual value in maintaining our traditional use of Latin in the Liturgy.

 

Well, what's old is new. If you grew up in the days of St. Jerome you'd know that the move to make Latin universal was very controversial and caused many much butthurt for everybody.

[Nihil Obstat]

Well, what's old is new. If you grew up in the days of St. Jerome you'd know that the move to make Latin universal was very controversial and caused many much butthurt for everybody.

Sure, and the same can be said about the debates surrounding the Immaculate Conception. But the continuous use of Latin by the Latin Church in the intervening centuries, especially in the Liturgy, is in and of itself proof of its spiritual value.

[Not The Philosopher]

The group of Oratorians that I am most familiar with are the ones in Toronto.  They celebrate the OF in both Latin and vernacular, as well as the EF.  Whatever form they use, they strive for excellence in liturgy.  They also tend to be excellent confessors and spiritual directors.  I think that all Oratorians share these characteristics but I have not researched it.

 

They are indeed great guys. The founder of that chapter, Fr. Jonathan Robinson, also wrote a book called The Mass and Modernity, which I haven't read yet, but looks interesting.

[Perigrina]

They are indeed great guys. The founder of that chapter, Fr. Jonathan Robinson, also wrote a book called The Mass and Modernity, which I haven't read yet, but looks interesting.

 

I have that.  I really liked it.  I also have his book based on Sculpoli's Spiritual Combat called Spiritual Combat Revisited.  I recommend either of these, but Fr. Robinson's is easier to read.

Edited June 20, 2014 by Perigrina

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I think any o.f mass the priest has the option to do the kyrie and agnus dei in latin. It isn't popular in my diocese. I personally would like to see it thrown in at regular intervals on sundays and tuesday night masses. I only assume this because when the new mass of the holy spirit came in both the kyrie and agnus dei was written in both english and latin on the sheets that where handed out with the changes to the mass, no other parts where in latin.

 

God is GOOD. (All the time.)

Edited June 20, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[Nihil Obstat]

I think any o.f mass the priest has the option to do the kyrie and agnus dei in latin. It isn't popular in my diocese. I personally would like to see it thrown in at regular intervals on sundays and tuesday night masses. I only assume this because when the new mass of the holy spirit came in both the kyrie and agnus dei was written in both english and latin on the sheets that where handed out with the changes to the mass, no other parts where in latin.

 

God is GOOD. (All the time.)

Actually the entire Mass can be in Latin. And given that Latin is the official language of the Latin Church, it is in a sense the norm, in continuity with tradition.

Except the Kyrie is Greek, not Latin.

[Fidei Defensor]

Actually the entire Mass can be in Latin. And given that Latin is the official language of the Latin Church, it is in a sense the norm, in continuity with tradition.

Except the Kyrie is Greek, not Latin.

I wish people would remember that latin is still the official language of the rite  :cry:

[oremus1]

Yes, once. In London England.

I have heard the UK Oratories have this most of the time.

[Nihil Obstat]

I have heard the UK Oratories have this most of the time.

It was St. James, which according to their website also celebrates the traditional Mass. Beautiful Gothic church. I regret that I had not gone perhaps only two years later, because I would have been able to appreciate it even better.

 

[Ash Wednesday]

It was St. James, which according to their website also celebrates the traditional Mass. Beautiful Gothic church. I regret that I had not gone perhaps only two years later, because I would have been able to appreciate it even better.

 

 

Is this St. James at Spanish Place in London!!?! I put a prayer note on their prayer board a few years ago for a friend that had a rare and aggressive cancer.... she's been in remission for years since!!!

 

 

I have heard the UK Oratories have this most of the time.

 

YES!

 

The UK is blessed with a few places with beautiful liturgies -- I love our oratories! I married at the Oxford Oratory and sometimes regret that I didn't request our wedding mass be in Latin...it just didn't occur to me at the time as an American who had just moved to England.

 

If anyone comes to London I also recommend St. Etheldreda's for a beautiful service in Latin. Truly takes you to something eternal and out of this world.

Edited June 21, 2014 by Ash Wednesday

[Nihil Obstat]

Is this St. James at Spanish Place in London!!?! I put a prayer note on their prayer board a few years ago for a friend that had a rare and aggressive cancer.... she's been in remission for years since!!!

The very same! I was there for Easter of 2007, I believe.