ithinkjesusiscool Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Pax! Is it ok to use psychology to explain what the human nature experienced in the garden of Gethsemane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysostom Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think it's fine to seek to understand what Jesus' human mind experienced, just as we can use medical knowledge to show what Jesus' human body experienced in crucifixion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think it's fine to seek to understand what Jesus' human mind experienced, just as we can use medical knowledge to show what Jesus' human body experienced in crucifixion. Agreed. I think using psychological and medical knowledge can actually help us to understand Jesus' agony in a deep way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 As long as it does not introduce conflict between Christ's human and divine natures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkjesusiscool Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I would answer yes but tell you that modern psychology theories can be really crazy. I wouldn't dare ask Freud about Jesus! Edited June 18, 2014 by ithinkjesusiscool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I personally do not believe you can analyze the sufferings of Christ through this means. The Passion of Christ is a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I personally do not believe you can analyze the sufferings of Christ through this means. The Passion of Christ is a mystery. I agree. The fact that Christ perfectly united His human and divine natures means that psychology is essentially useless in better understanding Him. We can understand Jesus Christ only in Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkjesusiscool Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 I agree. The fact that Christ perfectly united His human and divine natures means that psychology is essentially useless in better understanding Him. We can understand Jesus Christ only in Faith. Theologian, shut up...everything's a mystery! Sounds kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A mystery in a theological sense is different from a Ronald Knox type mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Theologian, shut up...everything's a mystery! Sounds kinda sad. Mysteries are not sad, nor are they anything to feel ashamed of. Mysteries are constantly a part of our life. This idea that we can know all things and understand all things - or that we should be able to-, is a temptation that goes as far back as our first parents. This kind of war on mystery has not gotten better with the advancement of technology. It's only fitting that Apple's logo is an apple with a bite taken out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkjesusiscool Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 A mystery in a theological sense is different from a Ronald Knox type mystery. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ??? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkjesusiscool Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 What? you wrote something abour Ronald Know and I didn't understand it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 you wrote something abour Ronald Know and I didn't understand it Ronald Knox, one of the key authors in the Golden Age of Detective Fiction. Also the sole translator of the Knox Bible, which is considered an exceptional piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) A mystery is an answer that needs to be sought. Jesus "Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened." Use what ever tools are necessary to find the answer, as long as there not contrary to faith or are demonic. And faith demands we use all human and divine tools. :P Edited June 20, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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