mortify ii Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://www.timesofisrael.com/pope-francis-says-pius-xiis-beatification-wont-go-ahead/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) He's just saying it can't go ahead because there hasn't been a documented miracle attributed to Pope Pius XII yet. John XXIII had one, so he was able to fast track him to sainthood and wave the second. Edited May 28, 2014 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Rightttt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Rightttt Well you have to admit, he's trying to be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I trust the Pope and his judgment in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://www.timesofisrael.com/pope-francis-says-pius-xiis-beatification-wont-go-ahead/ He's just saying it can't go ahead because there hasn't been a documented miracle attributed to Pope Pius XII yet. John XXIII had one, so he was able to fast track him to sainthood and wave the second. Rightttt Wait, so you want Francis to canonize Papa Pius XII without an approved miracle? PS. If we're fast tracking anyone, it should be Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen. Let's make him the 34th Doctor of the Church while we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I loved the: "WWII-era pontiff accused by Jewish groups of not speaking out against Holocaust or helping local community" I wonder if they can explain this? http://www.ewtn.com/library/issues/pius12gs.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Venerable Pope Pius XII pray for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Prayer Asking the Intercession of the Venerable Pope Pius XII O Jesus, eternal High Priest, Who didst deign to raise Thy faithful servant, Pius XII, to the supreme dignity of Thy Vicar on earth and to grant him the grace to be a fearless defender of the faith, a valiant champion of justice and peace, zealous in proclaiming the glory of Thy most holy Mother, a shining example of charity and all virtues, deign now to grant us, in view of his merits, the graces we ask of Thee; so that, made certain of his efficacious intercession with Thee, we may one day see him raised to the honors of our altars. Amen. http://www.salemcatholic.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Revised-Prayer-Card-for-Venerable-Pius-XII-2009.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Rightttt It's a vast Masonic/Jewish/Lizard-man conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superblue Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I do tend to think that now the path to being canonized is more political than anything, and more over the actual finances involved to have one become canonized is insane. An until recently I had no idea it cost a penny for the process to even take place. I tend to look at saints as being a thing of the past, and just a title now for sections of the world to rally around. What is it one or two miracles, and they seem to be on a very personal and small scale, the miracle takes place with one person. An I just don't find that to be so awe inspiring or moving or motivating. Especially when there are tons of other people in dire need or worse of a miracle and sadly for what ever reason God has they don't always get that miracle when they need it, or at all. Side rant, the spinning sun miracle thing by Mary, I don't get that either, what in the world is miraculous or beneficial about the sun doing a dance in the sky I mean had they all gotten super powers or heck a cheese sandwhich afterwards from out of no where id be like okay pretty cool. I can buy some fireworks and set em off and be just as amazed if not more so. I don't doubt it happened, but just seems not that big of deal, especially if one were leaving it up to the government to explain, the first thing would be it was some kind of atmospheric light bending of the ionosphere blah blah blah, like they explain away " ufo sightings '' or the like. But I mean people miraculous healing from cancer or the like, good for them, it doesn't change the problems I have to face. And evidently the Vatican has nothing to gain by canonizing anymore people at the moment so hence the delay. An to think it is because of the lack of a miracle come on, plenty of people are alive and living saints, performing daily miracles, as doctors, single parents, serving the homeless, etc, or by not giving into suicide, where is the piece of paper and seal of approval by the Vatican and the Pope for them to be declared saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's a vast Masonic/Jewish/Lizard-man conspiracy. It always is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It always is A great video on how to defend yourself. http://youtu.be/ftFGKW9RNy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Is that Captain Kirk climbing a mountain? Why is Captain Kirk climbing a mountain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) To crush the Masonic/Jewish/Lizard-man, of course. You think St. Anthony of Padua was the only hammer of heretics? http://youtu.be/tkBVDh7my9Q And because he is in love with it. Edited May 29, 2014 by Credo in Deum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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