Climate Change Is A Pro-life Issue

[Credo in Deum]

And I thought you guys/gals were pro-life.

[arfink]

Ive never played any of those. Although Ive watched people play StarCraft and I feel like League of Legends is kinda similar...or maybe not. But they have towers and little minion things that run around! 

 

League is... weird. Your control only one character, like in Diablo or WoW, and you level up and stuff, but instead of dungeons and a continual character progression, you play matches where your stats reset to a default level each time, and you build them up quickly over the course of a 10-30 minute match. It has the feeling of an RTS because you start out on a level playing field with your opponents and try to out-pace them in gaining power to eventually defeat them. Unlike an RTS, you only get to control the one character and do not control or build any of the towers or other minions.

[CrossCuT]

And I thought you guys/gals were pro-life.

Killing demons still counts!

  

League is... weird. Your control only one character, like in Diablo or WoW, and you level up and stuff, but instead of dungeons and a continual character progression, you play matches where your stats reset to a default level each time, and you build them up quickly over the course of a 10-30 minute match. It has the feeling of an RTS because you start out on a level playing field with your opponents and try to out-pace them in gaining power to eventually defeat them. Unlike an RTS, you only get to control the one character and do not control or build any of the towers or other minions.

Interesting. I dont really play either. I played league for a few months a while ago but thats it

[Credo in Deum]

Killing demons still counts!
 

[KnightofChrist]

IDGI :|

[CrossCuT]

Neither do i. The "over your head" gif is over my head.

[KnightofChrist]

Neither do i. The "over your head" gif is over my head.

Probably due to global warming and the secret unicorn conspiracy.

[Credo in Deum]

Explaining the joke would drastically change the climate of the entire thread; thus throwing all of Phatmass into a post-apocalyptic environment.  

 

  

[ImageTrinity]

 

You have every right to be skeptical. But 97% of scientists disagree with you. Which side do you want to error on?

 

It's a little more complicated than that. My husband is an environmental scientist. In order to get funding in his field, you have to throw the phrase "climate change" into your proposal. Science and politics are so unbelievably intertwined on this subject it's hard to separate fact from hysteria.

[Socrates]

No, it doesn't change anything. Abortion is objectively more evil.

 

You cannot perform an abortion without intending to kill a living human being. It is, by its very nature, always and everywhere, wrong.

 

You can, in fact, release greenhouse gases without intending to kill a living human being.

 

This is the key.

 

Deliberately killing a baby is inherently evil.  Producing "greenhouse gasses" is not.  (Or else we'd better all rush to Confession for the act of breathing!)

 

I'm extremely skeptical of the whole "global warming" hysteria (as are plenty of actual climate scientists).   No global warming has been measured in 12 years.

 

Climate change is a fact of life on this planet, and man-made "greenhouse gasses" are only a small factor compared to other natural factors.  Much ot North America was once covered in ice (which began retreating ages before the industrial revolution).  Geographical evidence shows that several times in past centuries (before the founding of the U.S.) there were massive droughts across North America far worse than anything we've experienced in recent times.

 

The idea that politicians can control the climate or prevent catastrophic weather patterns  and such is ridiculous and hubristic. 

 

 

Perhaps, since she feels so strongly about this issue, the OP can inform us exactly what specific environmental political policies Catholics are morally bound to support or oppose.

 

("Specific" does not mean vague sloganeering like "pro-environment" or " against Big Oil.")

[Socrates]

Which is just another reason why I dislike and am critical of the climate change movement. Anyone who dares question that dogma has their eduction or intelligence insulted and is dismissed out of hand. 

 

Seems the basic tactic of the political Left in general.  It's hardly confined to climate issues.

 

Disagree with a leftist/liberal on anything and you're stupid/ignorant/bigoted/racist.

[sixpence]

I dunno peoples...

I am inclined to accept the idea that the human population is affecting the climate. I tend not to pay too much attention to specific estimates of what will happen when, as I know that models are flawed things.  Heck, we can't even correctly predict tomorrow's weather sometimes! Also, I do not think that most "scientists" are qualified to give an opinion on what the raw data means (including myself). Only a small fraction actually study the climate, so I'm not sure what it means to say that 97% agree on climate change.  On the other hand, I do not think this gives anyone the right to dismiss climate change concerns out of hand.  It seems rather unfortunate that people want to wait for things to go down the toilet before they accept that we might have a problem. As the stewards of this earth, we ought to try to take care of it as best as we can. This does not imply that we don't trust that God watches over his creation and He is going to provide for human life to continue as long as He wills it; it simply means we ought to show our appreciation by taking care of the gift.

[ardillacid]

Hahaha! Wow. I've played the Diablo III demo but I doubt it has the Whimsyshire easter egg. Have you seen the new expansion pack for it? Seems pretty cool. I still think the first Diablo game was the best. 

 

I guess I think Diablo II is my favorite of the trilogy. I wish they could update the graphics of D2 with the D3 engine. :drool:

 

If you start talking to me about games I might blow up. I try to hide the socially unacceptable hobbies of mine.

But I play various games quite a bit. Not as much anymore since the current xpack is kinda boring. But I have a paragon level 76 demon hunter. 

 

Whimsyshire is accessible by a staff you have to craft. 

 

To me, Diablo is like bubble wrap on crack. 

 

I just started a Demon Hunter in hardcore mode. I think I'll make it a long ways now that I have reliable internets ^_^ 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2014 by ardillacid

[Kateri89]

Assuming that climate change is real, I would agree that it's a pro-life issue but by that same logic, what isn't?  Wouldn't it be a pro-life issue to support more funding for education so that the children might be more productive, independent, self-sustaining citizens when they grow up?  Doesn't foreign policy become a pro-life issue?  What about gun control, sex trafficking, or child labor laws?  Any issue can be made into a pro-life concern.  Whether or not climate change is real, it shouldn't matter; we should be taking care of our environment regardless because it is one of God's gifts to us.  I do agree with the sentiment of a recent poster who suggested that when we refer to pro-life concerns, we should limit it to issues concerning abortion, contraception, and euthanasia.  It's not that other issues don't belong in that category, but in the interest of keeping discussions free of confusion, it helps to narrow the spectrum a bit.  Having said all of this, I agree with the OP that being pro-life extends to all people from conception to natural death; just because one has been saved from the horror of abortion doesn't mean that we can suddenly wash our hands of their ongoing difficulties.

[Didacus]

Human-Made Global warming is a hoax in my opinion.

 

Although the earth is warming, I do not believe it is caused by man.

Here are a few compelling reasons:

 

1.  Most significant greenhouse gas is water, there are even clouds of water all over the world.  When is the last time you've seen a cloud of CO2?

2.  Most significant determinator of global temperature is solar activity - by far.

3.  CO2 content is lagging indicator versus temperature not a leading indicator (IE data shows CO2 levels follow temperature increase, thus temperature drives atmosphere's CO2 content, not the other way around).

4.  Global temperature HAS NEVER been constant; why would we expect it to be constant now?  In fact, to expect global temperature to remain constant would be the first event of its kind in the history of the earth (since it creation as a planete so many billions of yeawrs ago).

 

I believe efforts are best invested in adapting to the changing world rather than reaching for a pie that does not exist.

 

And also do note that reduction in CO2 levels of somes countries play to the advantage of certain other countries.  Make of it as you will, but that is a fact.  My take; the political strife of man-made global warming is much more talk than physical reality.