ruso Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Convent of La Haye- to - Bonshommes , 49240 Avrillé May 15, 2014 Press Dominican Avrillé The May 9, 2014 at 16:38 , the abbot of Cacqueray , District Superior of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X sent the following circular letter : Society of St. Pius X , Superior District + Suresnes, May 9, 2014 Subject: Dominicans Avrillé Dear Sir Abbot , In a circular letter to Major Superiors of April 10, you will receive an imminent threat in the next BO it is indicated that " Bishop Fellay had to suspend all relations with the convent Avrillé following a ' Address faithful ' the Fathers signed and a public conference that the Father Prior felt obliged to organize the January 19 at the convent. In this lecture , the authorities of the fraternity are strongly attacked at the same time what appealed to resist openly Bishop Fellay . Pending clarification and explanations that the Superior General Father Prior requested twice , and the necessary repairs demanded by the outrageous remarks made Avrillé any such relationship or collaboration is necessarily suspended with this community. Hope that this is only temporary . " If activities were planned with the convent Avrillé , thank you to inform the Father Prior that you can not keep . Thanking you to comply with these guidelines , please kindly accept, Sir Abbot , the expression of my priestly dedication to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, Father Régis de Cacqueray Here are some clarifications and corrections . The " public lecture " referred to took place in a private room in the hotel of the convent, she has been advertising. The " Address to the faithful " was played on January 19 after the sermon , the prior father invited the faithful who wished to explain in an informal meeting . About the Father Prior has been made in a clandestine manner , recording, poor quality , was sent to Menzingen and transcribed approximately enough . After several complaints, the Father Prior Menzingen finally received a copy of the recording on the same day (9 May) where the sentence was passed by Suresnes , leaving no opportunity to defend themselves or even to explain. That the authorities of the Brotherhood were "strongly contested " and " a call to resist openly Bishop Fellay was launched ," talk " about outrageous " are obvious exaggerations or slander. The conference , which lasted 33 minutes (+ 21 minutes for questions) , consisted primarily to review some public documents, including the famous " doctrinal statement " Bishop Fellay of 15 April 2012 sent to Cardinal Levada, statement withdrawn but not retracted text that is published on the website of the Society in France and contains serious errors and ambiguities in the literature. We are surprised that no response is made ​​on the merits of the question ( the doctrinal errors of Bishop Fellay never retracted ), but the only response is a very heavy sentence (in addition to the cancellation of all planned activities with the Brotherhood we are deprived of ordinations and holy oils) , while modernist Rome authorities and those who advocate rallying conciliar Rome are treated more gently or promoted to prominent positions . The Dominican Avrillé Translate google Translate google These Dominicans are part of the "hardliners" of the SSPX, it appears to be more religious groups that can break. We'll see how it ends. http://tradinews.blogspot.fr/2014/05/dominicains-davrille-quelques.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) That was not originally in English, was it? The translation was very confusing. Very clumsy. Edited May 20, 2014 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ruso Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 That was not originally in English, was it? The translation was very confusing. Very clumsy. French, I don't know that language, and I translated with google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I do not really want to even bother thinking about it until I can read a decent quality translation. I am fairly certain they lost even the general gist through the Googlez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I do not really want to even bother thinking about it until I can read a decent quality translation. I am fairly certain they lost even the general gist through the Googlez. Alrighty pholks, I have rendered a quick translation. Anything in brackets I have added for clarification. Just a note on the document itself. The whole letter comes from the Dominicans of Avrille. They quote a letter from an SSPX priest which itself quotes a forthcoming official bulletin from the Major Generals of the SSPX. Their response follows. ------- Communique of the Dominicans of Avrille On May 9, 2014, Fr. De Cacqueray, district superior of the SSPX sent the following circular letter, as follows: Object: Dominicans of Avrille, Dear Revered Father, In a circular letter to the Major Superiors of April 10 that you will receive soon in the next official bulletin, it states that “Mgrs. Fellay had to suspend all relations with the convent of Avrille following an “Address to the faithful†which the Fathers had signed and after a public conference which the Father Prior felt obliged to organize last January 19 at the convent. In this convent, the authorities of the Fraternity [SSPX] were lively attacked and at the same time there was a call to openly resist Mgrs. Fellay. Pending the clarification and explanation which the Superior General [SSPX] had asked the Father Prior for twice, and the necessary reparation for the outrageous statements made at Avrille, all relations and collaboration is out of necessity suspended with this community. Hopefully this measure will only be temporary.†If there activities planned with the convent in Avrille, I ask that you advise the Father Prior that you cannot keep them. I ask you to conform to these directives, which I hope you agree with, dear Revered Father, the expression of sacerdotal devotion in the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, [signed] Fr. Regis de Cacqueray. Here are some corrections and rectifications : The “public conference†which is being discussed took place in a private room of the hostel of the convent, and was not made public. Having read the “Address to the Faithful†on January 19 after the sermon, the father prior had invited the faithful who desired an explanation to an informal meeting. The meeting of the father prior was recorded in a clandestine manner, the recording, of a poor quality, was sent to Menzingen and transcribed close enough. After several complaints [requests], the father prior finally received from Menzingen a copy of this recording, the same day (May 9) that the condemnation was promulgated from Suresnes, not leaving the possibility to defend ourselves nor explain. Saying that the authorities of the Fraternity [SSPX] were “lively attacked†and “that open resistance to Mgsr. Fellay was called forâ€, to speak of “outrageous claims†are manifest exaggerations, nay calumnies. The conference [informal meeting], which lasted 33 minutes (and 21 minutes of questions), principally consisted of commenting on some public documents, of which the famous “doctrinal declaration†of Mgsr Fellay of April 15, 2012 which was sent to Cardinal Levada, a declaration which was withdrawn but not retracted, and a text which can be found published on the Fraternity’s [SSPX] website for France, and which contains grave errors and doctrinal ambiguities. We are amazed that there has been no response regarding the substance of the question (the doctrinal errors that Mgsr Fellay never retracted), but that the only response a heavy-handed condemnation (along with the cancellation of pre-planned activities with the Fraternity, we have been deprived of ordinations and holy oil), while the modernist authorities of Rome and those who advocate a reunification with Conciliar [Vatican II] Rome are treated more kindly or even promoted to important posts. The Dominicans of Avrille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ruso Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 The Dominicans of Avrillé no longer appear on the page of the SSPX, seems that his expulsion from the fraternity is a fact, adds to the rupture between Fellay and Williamson. http://laportelatine.org/ordres/ordlatin/religieux.php http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/sspx-williamson-vs-fellay.htm In Spain, the SSPX have lost support since refused to return, when Benedict XVI granted almost everything they asked, What is the situation of the SSPX in USA?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojuanco Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Here it seems that the fringe have remained. The traditionalists who were less willing to follow all the conspiracy theories have essentially flocked to the communities and parishes strengthened or founded in conjunction with SP. In a way, Summorum Pontificum succeeded, not at the level of organizations, but individual believers and communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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