Theology And Knowledge

[popestpiusx]

Very Good!

[Azriel]

ah, the Mystery of Faith.

such beauty in that.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Cure of Ars' date='Jun 8 2004, 01:26 AM'] "And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge…but do not have love, I am nothing." (1 Cor 13:2)


Love is where it is at. If you love God your going to want to know more about him and use all of you mental faculties to know Him. But without it all the knowledge in the world is not going to do you a lick of good. [/quote]
But love is more than an emotion. Love is an act of will. Love is an action verb, not just a warm fuzzy feeling.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 8 2004, 01:36 PM'] But love is more than an emotion. Love is an act of will. Love is an action verb, not just a warm fuzzy feeling. [/quote]
Exactly!! Good post.

[Cure of Ars]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 8 2004, 12:36 PM'] But love is more than an emotion. Love is an act of will. Love is an action verb, not just a warm fuzzy feeling. [/quote]
I agree.

[Norseman82]

Knowing all about theology and the faith is no good unless you live it in your daily life.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Norseman82' date='Jun 8 2004, 09:49 PM'] Knowing all about theology and the faith is no good unless you live it in your daily life. [/quote]
AMEN TO THAT

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Cure of Ars' date='Jun 7 2004, 11:26 PM'] "And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge…but do not have love, I am nothing." (1 Cor 13:2)


Love is where it is at. If you love God your going to want to know more about him and use all of you mental faculties to know Him. But without it all the knowledge in the world is not going to do you a lick of good. [/quote]
AMEN TO THAT

[Guest JeffCR07]

Ok, so to some up the last few posts (some people were arguing, now they're in agreement...what is going on? lol)

The key element that were all pretty much saying is that if we love God the following will happen:
1.) We will accept the grace he desires to bestow upon us
2.) We will seek, with all our hearts to understand him with our minds
3.) emotions, while a critical aspect of human nature that can help us to love more fully, are NOT faith, nor are they Love in the [i]true[/i] sense of the word
4.) When Emotion and Reason fail us in are pursuit of God - and they have their limits, for we are only imperfect - it is Faith and Love upon which we stand, for they are undeniably seperate from emotion and reason. True faith and True love are mutually entwined (thus one with faith will act with love) and are Unconditional

I'm pretty sure thats where we are, right?

[Brother Adam]

Adopted sonship is what gets one into heaven. Whether you know that or not doesn't matter, that is just how it works. If you are born again through baptism, and remain in God's grace at death, cool, you made it. Naturally there can be exceptions (baptism by desire/martyrs baptism), but the basic idea is you must be saved, i.e. born again.

[Guest JeffCR07]

What you say is true, insofar as you don't have mortal sin on your soul when you die. You used the phrase "remain in God's Grace" and, to the best of my knowledge, you are correct to use it, keeping in mind that mortal sin removes us completely (or, better said, through mortal sin we remove ourselves completely) from the salvific Grace of God.

A cool little [i]Protoevangelical[/i] fact here:

Mortal sin can be found in Genesis. The english translate the ancient hebrew to say something like "On the day you eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, on that day you shall surely die." However the Hebrew repeats the word "die" so it reads "you shall surely die die." This repetition is not mearly a note of emphasis, but also changes the connotative meaning of the world. For the ancient Jews this passage spoke not of physical death, but of spiritual death: the schism and seperation between man and God that necessitates salvation...all in a single action.

cool huh?