mortify ii Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Here are a few excerpts from Pope Pius XI's encyclical on Religious Unity (Mortalium Animos.) He condemns as dangerous what is generally understood as "ecumenism" today, and for good reason. He charges that non-Catholics who promoted it were in fact promoting an erroneous understanding of unity and trying to establish a "false christianity." There is only *one* Church and she has always possessed unity. Our mission out to be to bring all separated brothers back into this unity that we currently enjoy. http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11MORTA.HTM ----- 7. And here it seems opportune to expound and to refute a certain false opinion, on which this whole question, as well as that complex movement by which non-Catholics seek to bring about the union of the Christian churches depends. For authors who favor this view are accustomed, times almost without number, to bring forward these words of Christ: "That they all may be one...." (...) Controversies therefore, they say, and longstanding differences of opinion which keep asunder till the present day the members of the Christian family, must be entirely put aside, and from the remaining doctrines a common form of faith drawn up and proposed for belief, and in the profession of which all may not only know but feel that they are brothers. The manifold churches or communities, if united in some kind of universal federation, would then be in a position to oppose strongly and with success the progress of irreligion. 8. This being so, it is clear that the Apostolic See cannot on any terms take part in their assemblies, nor is it anyway lawful for Catholics either to support or to work for such enterprises; for if they do so they will be giving countenance to a false Christianity, quite alien to the one Church of Christ... 9. These pan-Christians who turn their minds to uniting the churches seem, indeed, to pursue the noblest of ideas in promoting charity among all Christians: nevertheless how does it happen that this charity tends to injure faith?... 10. So, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics: for the union of Christians can only be promoted by promoting the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it, for in the past they have unhappily left it. To the one true Church of Christ, we say, which is visible to all, and which is to remain, according to the will of its Author, exactly the same as He instituted it. During the lapse of centuries, the mystical Spouse of Christ has never been contaminated, nor can she ever in the future be contaminated, as Cyprian bears witness: "The Bride of Christ cannot be made false to her Spouse: she is incorrupt and modest. She knows but one dwelling, she guards the sanctity of the nuptial chamber chastely and modestly."[20] The same holy Martyr with good reason marveled exceedingly that anyone could believe that "this unity in the Church which arises from a divine foundation, and which is knit together by heavenly sacraments, could be rent and torn asunder by the force of contrary wills."[21] For since the mystical body of Christ, in the same manner as His physical body, is one,[22] compacted and fitly joined together,[23] it were foolish and out of place to say that the mystical body is made up of members which are disunited and scattered abroad: whosoever therefore is not united with the body is no member of it, neither is he in communion with Christ its head.[24] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yo separated brethren, listen up! “No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church.†(St Augustine. Sermo ad Caesariensis Ecclesia plebem ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 So when you get banned again are you going to come back as Mortify 3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Why would I get banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Why would someone who has a d.u.i. get another one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Touché old sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Btw, is your new avatar a cartoonist's interpretation of what you look like now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 No its God.....Do you want me to tell him you said hi ? He's watching hockey not sure why it sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I certainly hope one cannot be banned solely for posting quotes from popes and saints. That would be rather bizarre for a Catholic message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Agreed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I certainly hope one cannot be banned solely for posting quotes from popes and saints. That would be rather bizarre for a Catholic message board. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-TZLeIcrzY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I certainly hope one cannot be banned solely for posting quotes from popes and saints. That would be rather bizarre for a Catholic message board. One could get labeled phishy for the commentary that comes along with some of the quotes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 One could get labeled phishy for the commentary that comes along with some of the quotes, though. It has been known to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify ii Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 It has been known to happen. It's a fact of history, a previous Pope condemned as erroneous what a recent Pope esteemed. I know it's confusing but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) It happens... Edited May 5, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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