Worst Presidents?

[Iacobus]

ANything other than PBA, I heard that but was unsure.

[popestpiusx]

Top three worst in American history:

1)Abe Lincoln
2)Woodrow Wilson
3)FDR

after that it is a toss up
Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Clinton was a scumbag socialist who sold nuclear secrets to the commies (amongst other things).
Kennedy was a scumbag (with terrible foreign policy AND bought his election).
Grant was worthless in the sense that his presidency was extrmely corrupt (though he was not a bad guy, it was those he placed around himself).
Carter was just worthless (should have stayed on the Peanut farm).
Johnson (Andrew that is) I don't actually mind that much. He just inherited a nasty state of affairs in post "War between the States" America.

The key though is that the vast majority of nastiness in this country has been a direct result of Abe Lincoln and his disregard for the Constitution. No other president (or congress or Supreme Ct.) since him could have done what they did were it not for him.

Edited June 8, 2004 by popestpiusx

[Iacobus]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jun 7 2004, 11:59 PM'] Top three worst in American history:

1)Abe Lincoln
2)Woodrow Wilson
3)FDR

after that it is a toss up
Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Clinton was a scumbag socialist who sold nuclear secrets to the commies (amongst other things).
Kennedy was a scumbag (with terrible foreign policy AND bought his election).
Grant was worthless in the sense that his presidency was extrmely corrupt (though he was not a bad guy, it was those he placed around himself).
Carter was just worthless (should have stayed on the Peanut farm).
Johnson (Andrew that is) I don't actually mind that much. He just inherited a nasty state of affairs in post "War between the States" America.

The key though is that the vast majority of nastiness in this country has been a direct result of Abe Lincoln and his disregard for the Constitution.  No other president (or congress or Supreme Ct.) since him could have done what they did were it not for him. [/quote]
Okay reasons for not liking FDR or Wilson? I mean I can respect not liking them and thinging them bad but any reasons why. You didn't list any.

Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Okay. So he did. Why? Because the French helped us overthrow a monacry so we owed them. We are the USF. Without them we are nothing. So Jefferson, a man of honor and respect, support them in toppling a evil rule. What is bad about that?

Clintion did? Thats news to me. I heard that they thought some scienteist did than found them not guilty. Hmmm. Support?

Kennedy, bad forgein policy? How so? Defending freedom? Doing what Ike would have done? Doing what Truman would have done.

Grant was corrupt, yes. But was one of his policys corrupting the goverment?

Carter was worthless? The 70's were a bad time. The US ecomony was burned out after the "best of both" years during Nam. 1970-1979 GDP does not meet one year of the 1960's. Or 50's. Nobody could have done good than.

Andrew Johnson has good poilices but lacked the will of Lincon. Speaking of which.. how can you not mind Johnson but dislike Lincon because many of Johnsons things were remeants of Lincon?