Dusty Fro Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 I recently home, and went to my home church. I live in a small town, but it's never been glaringly conservative. My pastor, someone who I care about and respect, stood up in front of the congrgation, and waved a clipboard with a petition for the "Protection of Marriage Act" to get on the ballot. I found it highly inappropriate to push politics in church, whether I agree with them on a moral level or not. When I went back to school, my church here had the same petition on a table with a big sign pointing to it. I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Christ's message, if we live it, causes us to take political stands based on our morality. There are appropriate ways to include within the Church because what a Church teaches us of God is the foundation of our morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 (edited) Abortion comes to mind ... we're called to fight against it and vote pro-life. So to say the Church should stay out of politics is just nonsense. If it did, then how could we know what is moral politically? Edited June 7, 2004 by Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 I dunno sometimes where there is a social or political issue what our Parish does is after the mass a speaker comes up talks about it and then gives people the choice to sign it or not its not very forcefull but it does give you something to chew on and mostly everyone does. I have no problem with it IF DONE PROPERLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Sometimes it's kinda inapropiate if it interrupts or is pushy in a Mass/service. It hasn't happened in my parish. But I don't think it's wrong, I mean in Church you praise God, give thanks to God, ask God for things, worship God, and in our case (Catholics) RECEIVE God. Then later you want to do your share to, in a way, bring Christ to the world. Signing a petition like that, for example. Like Crusader_4 said, IF DONE PROPERLY God Bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 "You can't be passive, gotta be active Can't go with what looks attractive" Arrested Development I don't have a problem with it. I think it is good. It is time that we start fullfilling our role that Jesus has give us, to be light to the nations. It should be done after the Mass is ended though. God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Not to gang up on ya. I just think that we need to take our faith out of the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Fro Posted June 8, 2004 Author Share Posted June 8, 2004 I have no problem with anyone signing the petition. If they really feel that there needs to be a ballot measure about it, then they should follow their beliefs. I think that the petition itself should not be advertised in church. The pulpit is a place for God's word, not a legal agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I'm going to start a petition in my city to get EWTN back on cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Haha dust, petitions are amazing As per the real topic, I think that if done appropriately after mass has ended just before they leave, then it would be OK. As long as he wasnt like "On the third day... Ok guys i just have to tell you, we have this..." or anything like that then I think that its fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 If we aren't called to support what's right, then why are we here? I think that priests should be more outspoken about certain topics personally. I don't think that marriage is spoken enough about, and I bet a priest could do a real good homily on just the Sacrament of marriage in regards to a new Constitution amendments. Personally I don't think that the amendment is just a political issue. I feel it's a moral one first. Then it becomes the priest's responsibility to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Fro Posted June 8, 2004 Author Share Posted June 8, 2004 What if there was a closeted gay person in the church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 if they're following Church teaching they should be against gay "marriage" as well. i am. PAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 [quote name='Dusty Fro' date='Jun 8 2004, 12:43 AM'] I have no problem with anyone signing the petition. If they really feel that there needs to be a ballot measure about it, then they should follow their beliefs. I think that the petition itself should not be advertised in church. The pulpit is a place for God's word, not a legal agenda. [/quote] Yes, the pulpit is a place for God's word, but the legal agenda SHOULD follow God's word. Just because we live in a country with supposed separation of Church and state DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Raphael Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Dusty Fro' date='Jun 8 2004, 04:14 AM'] What if there was a closeted gay person in the church? [/quote] If I was the pastor, I'd also include a little message concerning "Hating the sin but loving the sinner." Many who have a sin they are struggling with (mostly those who don't like it) feel ashamed to come to someone especially most Christians to talk about it. We don't accept the sin but we accept the sinner just as Jesus did. So again I'd remind everyone (if I was that pastor) that we are to love the sinner, but we aren't to allow the sin itself to take over our country and church. And if the person that is gay doesn't think there's anything wrong with it, and like their sin, then that's their problem. God will not yield Himself to someone who loves their sin, not one bit. And if the Holy Spirit tells me, I'd even go so far as to have a deliverance service for anyone struggling with sexual addictions or any addiction. Edited June 8, 2004 by Archangel Raphael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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