CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Do you have a reading disability? No, but if I had to rate the ridiculous things youre saying on a scale from 1 to Chris Brown....hey, maybe its Rihannas fault she got beat up cause she didnt have a gun? Or maybe it was her fault because she wasnt familiar with physical violence? Yes, but nowhere near as powerful as Crosscuts. I'd only be Robin to her Batman. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Ok now, which is it going to be, believe me or misrepresent me? As I explained my intention was, to get you to think, to see the error in your logic, that there is no violence done so long as someone obeys a demand that goes against their will, a demand backed by threat of violence, and that it only becomes violence when that person disobeys that demand. I apologize, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didnt mean to use a rape example at all. Any correlation between gun ban and rape is just outrageous in my eyes. This whole conversation is turning completely outrageous. I dont think I can even participate anymore! I cant decide whether to laugh at the insanity or feel bad... If anyone one wants a skype date to chat about this stuff Id be more than happy! There are also other voice options that dont include video that are available for multi person use. If anyone wants to let me know! I use a voice chat service called Ventrillo on a daily basis and its a free download. if anyone wants to pop in and chat with me, just download the client and ill provide the port info. You can come listen to my saucy voice. :evil: Edited April 16, 2014 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) :lol: if i had a mic i would, which reminds me i have to purchase a mic. I used to have one when i yahooed but have lost it in my moving from previous house back to parents. And what flavour of sauce is your voice anyway? Never heard of a voice being saucy unless your being sensual ? Edited April 16, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 No, but if I had to rate the ridiculous things youre saying on a scale from 1 to Chris Brown....hey, maybe its Rihannas fault she got beat up cause she didnt have a gun? Or maybe it was her fault because she wasnt familiar with physical violence? Then it's just a reading comprehension issue. Perhaps if you spent less time on pm and invested a little bit in some books on reading comprehension, you could avoid these bizarre leaps in logic. I doubted your ability to successfully search for the books, so I've provided a link. http://www.scholastic.com/parents/resources/article/developing-reading-skills/improve-reading-comprehension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Then it's just a reading comprehension issue. that's impossible. Nobody on phatmass has a reading comprehension problem. Especially no-one in debate table. No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I apologize, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didnt mean to use a rape example at all. Any correlation between gun ban and rape is just outrageous in my eyes. This whole conversation is turning completely outrageous. I dont think I can even participate anymore! I cant decide whether to laugh at the insanity or feel bad... The thread is a little wack. Let's get past the crazy analogies. To your earlier post, I understand your position that there shouldn't be a gun ban, but you seem to qualify it because it can't be enforced. If all guns owned by citizens (law abiding and criminal) could be magically made in operable by government by flipping a switch without violence or physical force, should the government do so? Does it matter if that leaves only government with operable guns? Are the other posters saying that not only gun bans are wrong, but gun regulations are wrong as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) None of you even have the right to life, nor do you have a right to a gun in Gods eyes. Life is a gift from GOD, as perhaps a gun is particularly for hunting but no where near as cool a gift as life, and you don't give certain presents to certain people talking of the gun and not life. Bring out the Justice scales, put a gun on one side and the gift of life on the other, the guns going to loose in a court of law. Edited April 16, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) I apologize, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didnt mean to use a rape example at all. Any correlation between gun ban and rape is just outrageous in my eyes. This whole conversation is turning completely outrageous. I dont think I can even participate anymore! I cant decide whether to laugh at the insanity or feel bad... No, I did mean to use the example I used. I have simply not used it in the manner you believe and have misrepresented. Your current position only serves to misrepresent, marginalize and dismiss without facing the error of your own logic. I tried to find the one example where you would know your logic was illogical. If a man demands a woman to obey him or be punished with violence that is violence. How on earth could you disagree with that? Of course you don't, and you agree, I know it. But using the logic you presented earlier that would not be violent at all, and it would only become violent when the woman objected, and again using the logic presented earlier it would be her fault the violence happened. Edited April 16, 2014 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Then it's just a reading comprehension issue. Perhaps if you spent less time on pm and invested a little bit in some books on reading comprehension, you could avoid these bizarre leaps in logic. I doubted your ability to successfully search for the books, so I've provided a link. http://www.scholastic.com/parents/resources/article/developing-reading-skills/improve-reading-comprehension Do I click the link or type it into the address bar? What do I do when I get there? The thread is a little wack. Let's get past the crazy analogies. To your earlier post, I understand your position that there shouldn't be a gun ban, but you seem to qualify it because it can't be enforced. If all guns owned by citizens (law abiding and criminal) could be magically made in operable by government by flipping a switch without violence or physical force, should the government do so? Does it matter if that leaves only government with operable guns? Are the other posters saying that not only gun bans are wrong, but gun regulations are wrong as well? Well, even if there was a way to non violently remove violent weapons like guns from the general public, guns arent the problem. I am sure they will find other means to harm each other so I think what we ought to do is go to the source of the problem. Why is society so violent? What social or economic problems could be causing such behavior? What things can we do to address this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 None of you even have the right to life, nor do you have a right to a gun in Gods eyes. Life is a gift from GOD, as perhaps a gun is particularly for hunting but no where near as cool a gift as life, and you don't give certain presents to certain people talking of the gun and not life. Bring out the Justice scales, put a gun on one side and the gift of life on the other. That's not really the issue. The issue is whether others have a right to prevent owning a gun. That's the thing. Those who support gun control assert that individuals don't have a right to own firearms, but that groups of individuals gain the right (through the mysterious magicks of teh gubbmintses) to forbid other individuals from owning firearms, and to back this up with violence, often using the very tools denied to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 If all guns owned by citizens (law abiding and criminal) could be magically made in operable by government by flipping a switch without violence or physical force, should the government do so? Does it matter if that leaves only government with operable guns? Yes, we should flip the switch because the government is totally trustworthy and they just want what is best for us. Why can't people understand that? Oh, and we are not at war with EastAsia, btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Yes, we should flip the switch because the government is totally trustworthy and they just want what is best for us. Why can't people understand that? Oh, and we are not at war with EastAsia, btw! Anomaly was just asking me a hypothetical. We are just brainstorming, we should all brainstorm together. Why is there so much violence? Will it be solved by getting rid of guns? What causes people to lash out and go on shooting rampages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) That's not really the issue. The issue is whether others have a right to prevent owning a gun. That's the thing. Those who support gun control assert that individuals don't have a right to own firearms, but that groups of individuals gain the right (through the mysterious magicks of teh gubbmintses) to forbid other individuals from owning firearms, and to back this up with violence, often using the very tools denied to others. I hear your point, but i still don't think it is a right in gods eyes, but nor is coca cola, it is a gift to be respected and treated wisely. The U.S should have a class once a term once children are 13 on the respectful and responsible ownership and use of gun or guns. It should be mandatory for every single school from the age of about 13 onwards. All glory to GOD. Edited April 16, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Anomaly was just asking me a hypothetical. We are just brainstorming, we should all brainstorm together. There you go, using that superpower again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I hear your point, but i still don't think it is a right in gods eyes, but nor is coca cola, it is a gift to be respected and treated wisely. The U.S should have a class once a term once children are 13 on the respectful and responsible ownership and use of gun or guns. It should be mandatory for every single school from the age of about 13 onwards. All glory to GOD . I don't see the sense in giving an entity like the US government the responsibility of teaching people respectful and responsible ownership and use of guns. They have amply illustrated they don't understand either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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