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IcePrincessKRS

Okay. I still don't see how it's a modesty issue. 

 

Again, kind of proves my point that our culture has sexualized a woman's body where even such a tender practice such as breastfeeding is "immodest."

 

Don't go around topless, men. You have nipples too. I might "stumble".

 

(fun fact; sometimes men can lactate)

 

I'd give you props but I ran out. I don't know why it should be a modesty issue. My best guess is that people are afraid they might see a flash of boob. (Pro tip: don't stare.)

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Because breasts were made to turn men on and play with during sex. Didn't you know?

 

You mean the only reason women exist is for men's pleasure?

 

Wow. It's almost like, outside of sex, women have no identity!

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PhuturePriest

I'd give you props but I ran out. I don't know why it should be a modesty issue. My best guess is that people are afraid they might see a flash of boob. (Pro tip: don't stare.)

 

Honestly, open breastfeeding is such a non-issue for me that I can't see how it is an issue for others. It's like people are shaming women for being feminine, as Basilisa Marie said. But what baffles me is that people take issue with women breastfeeding even with covers on. How on earth is that an issue? It just makes no sense to me.

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Honestly, open breastfeeding is such a non-issue for me that I can't see how it is an issue for others.

 

People have been conditioned in our culture to view women a certain way so I dont understand why you are so quick to shun people who would be upset by an exposed breast during breast feeding.

 

 I believe women should have the freedom to feel comfortable breast feeding where every they want and in whatever manner, but I find myself feeling uncomfortable if I see an exposed breast. Does that make me a horrible person? Its still a little off putting regardless of my stance on the issue.

 

I dont like the attitude of "It doesnt bother me/I have no difficulties with it so I have no intelligible comprehension of what anyone else feels".

I view that as very dismissive and disconnected. Even while I stand with you on this issue, I dont like the attitude to shrug off everyone else or take no effort into sympathizing.

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People have been conditioned in our culture to view women a certain way so I dont understand why you are so quick to shun people who would be upset by an exposed breast during breast feeding.

 

 I believe women should have the freedom to feel comfortable breast feeding where every they want and in whatever manner, but I find myself feeling uncomfortable if I see an exposed breast. Does that make me a horrible person? Its still a little off putting regardless of my stance on the issue.

 

I dont like the attitude of "It doesnt bother me/I have no difficulties with it so I have no intelligible comprehension of what anyone else feels".

I view that as very dismissive and disconnected. Even while I stand with you on this issue, I dont like the attitude to shrug off everyone else or take no effort into sympathizing.

 

But why should the mother care what others think when it has nothing to do with them?

 

No, I don't sympathize with people like that. I expect them to realize that a woman's body is not a sex object. Especially when feeding a child for heaven's sake. 

 

So no. No sympathy. Oh well if some people are uncomfortable. It says more about them than the mother. I feel uncomfortable when men sexualize every aspect of a woman's body and her identity, but no one gives a crap about that. I feel uncomfortable when a woman can't even feed her freaking child without people worrying that a man will go "I'm horny lulz" which is actually really offensive to a man, because it turns them into horny dogs who only want sex, in addition to the woman being a sex object.

 

The way our culture has taught us to view women is wrong, and so things like this do bother me. And I stand by it. Sorry not sorry.

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PhuturePriest

People have been conditioned in our culture to view women a certain way so I dont understand why you are so quick to shun people who would be upset by an exposed breast during breast feeding.

 

 I believe women should have the freedom to feel comfortable breast feeding where every they want and in whatever manner, but I find myself feeling uncomfortable if I see an exposed breast. Does that make me a horrible person? Its still a little off putting regardless of my stance on the issue.

 

I dont like the attitude of "It doesnt bother me/I have no difficulties with it so I have no intelligible comprehension of what anyone else feels".

I view that as very dismissive and disconnected. Even while I stand with you on this issue, I dont like the attitude to shrug off everyone else or take no effort into sympathizing.

 

I understand. Everyone has been raised in a culture that has sexualized women so much that it's taboo for women to breastfeed with or without a cover on. However, I learned that that was wrong and educated myself into how to look at the female body properly, despite being a man and living in a culture where breasts are considered the sexiest part of the female body. If I can do it, you can, too.

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"Pope Francis assured mothers that breast-feeding their babies in public, even during a papal Mass in the Sistine Chapel, is OK.

No chorus is as wonderful as the squeaks, squeals and banter of children, the pope said during a Mass in which he baptized 32 babies on the feast of the Baptism of the Lord, Jan. 12.

"Some will cry because they are uncomfortable or because they are hungry," he said during his brief and unscripted homily.

"If they are hungry, mothers, let them eat, no worries, because here they are the main focus," he said.


One of the mothers, Emer McCarthy, an Irish journalist at Vatican Radio, told Catholic News Service that while most of the other mothers had brought baby bottles for feedings, she did not hesitate to breast-feed her daughter, Polly Rose, discreetly during appropriate moments during the ceremony.

She said she hoped the pope's encouragement would help overcome social taboos against breast-feeding in public.

"Who would have thought the pope would be this great proponent," she said.

The pope made a similar appeal in an interview with La Stampa newspaper Dec. 15. In a world where so many children go hungry, people must help them eat, he said.

He used the example of a young woman he saw at a Wednesday general audience whose child was crying desperately.

"I told her, 'Ma'am I think your baby is hungry.' And she replied, 'Yes, it would be time.' I replied, 'Well, please, feed him.' She was modest and didn't want to breast-feed him in public while the pope drove by," the pope said in the interview.

The pope's remarks "underline how natural it is, how motherhood and maternity are natural and have a place, even in church, even in the Sistine Chapel," McCarthy said.

 

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1400120.htm

 

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I'm aware it's fully alright, but my reaction usually sits somewhere between "don't care" to "huh.. that's kinda weird". But then I consider the whole one human being coming out of another kind of weird. I mean seriously, how is all that hardware packed in such a small place.  :huh:

 

I'm sure that will change when I have a kid. Or maybe it will just become weirder. 

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At the same time, we do need to be careful about judgement, I think you are but too many people don't get what "most" means.  My friend's little sister was autistic and the only way she could sit through anything...be it school, Mass...even a television show was to have a snack every few minutes.

 

She looked like an ordinary, sweet, 4-6 year old girl but she was profoundly handicapped.  I can't tell you how many rude, judgmental people gave looks or said mean things.

 

 

Totally understand what you're saying :) that's why I said "most". For instance, there was a child a couple of weeks ago at Mass who was eating something (I couldn't tell what), it was loud and the wrapper was crinkling and it was driving me crazy. But I don't know the parents, I don't know the kid. For all I know, the kid does have a developmental problem that I don't know about. So I just offered it up. LOL. 

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You know that smothered feeling you get when you put your head under a blanket? Now imagine doing that while you're chugging a drink. Doesn't sound super fun, does it?

 

For many women a nursing cover is impratical and a colossail pain in the rump. I found I was able to be more discreet and modest without one. Most people had no idea I was feeding my baby, and if they were hovering close enough to see the possible 1/4 inch of flesh that may have been exposed maybe they ought to back off a little and stop invading my personal space.

 

and some kids (like my boyo) would literally rip off a cover even if I tried to use one. LOL. 

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I mean seriously, how is all that hardware packed in such a small place.  :huh:

 

ROFL. totally giggled at this. hahaha!  :hehe2:  :hehe2:

 

You know what's really weird, when your kids get older and you think, "Wow it's so weird that they used to be so small and fit inside my body." ROFL

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ROFL. totally giggled at this. hahaha!  :hehe2:  :hehe2:

 

You know what's really weird, when your kids get older and you think, "Wow it's so weird that they used to be so small and fit inside my body." ROFL

 

haha, yeah if its surreal for the guys I can't imagine what it's like for the ladies. 

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PhuturePriest

(Just a general comment)

 

Quite honestly.

 

"When men get involved"

 

Why should they? It's none of their business. The mother is feeding her baby.

 

Not everything is about men. Or for them to worry about. Women don't need to be watched by the morality police so they make sure she doesn't "cause them to stumble." 

 

But in all fairness, with that logic, you should be yelling at me for being a lactavist, because it's me having (very) strong beliefs about breastfeeding mothers. I'm a man (sort of) "getting involved", if you will, on the argument.

 

So, are men not allowed to have opinions on breastfeeding, or are they allowed so long as they believe women can breastfeed wherever and however they want?

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Men and women will always have opinions regardless of if it's to do with their sex because we're all human. :l

 

I had to google lactavist...

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