Sternhauser Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Era Might' date='26 November 2009 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1259291451' post='2009979'] The philosophy of politics is more likeable than politics itself. To paraphrase Plato, either politicians need to become philosophers or philosophers need to become politicians. [/quote] Tolkien points out why this can never be: "The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity." Augustine says the same thing: "[God] did not intend that his rational creature, who was made in his image, should have dominion over anything but the irrational creature—not man over man, but man over the beasts." Human nature was not built for ruling other men. Human nature was built for adhering to God's law, thereby precluding the emergence of men with a monopoly of physical power over their fellow men. ~Sternhauser Edited November 27, 2009 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 See, my problem with politics is they promise stuff, and don't deliver. Does this sound familiar Aloysius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 [quote name='aalpha1989' date='26 November 2009 - 07:31 PM' timestamp='1259281867' post='2009913'] The handful are all that are needed to prove that it is possible. The ideal should always be strived for, and the decadence of the masses is no excuse not to try.[/QUOTE] That's about the logic of every man who spent his last paycheck on lottery tickets. That in the overwhelming majority of instances such tactics for attaining wealth are futile means no difference. Those infinitesimally rare exceptions prove that this ideal means of gaining your fortune is possible and should be strove towards. [QUOTE]Your logic is not logic at all. Gandhi used the same reasoning to deny the Truth held in Christianity; "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." You cannot fight philosophic truths with the excuse that people do not heed said truths. In fact, people very rarely admit Truth. Edit: I obviously don't agree with everything Plato says, only much of what he says about the ideal ruler. [/quote] What philosophic truths? is there some deductive argument proving the philosopher king to be the best form of governance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='26 November 2009 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1259282841' post='2009923'] Politics hates you, too. And me. [/quote] Politics killed my dog. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='27 November 2009 - 12:11 AM' timestamp='1259298670' post='2010070'] Politics killed my dog. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Politics turned me into a newt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 [quote name='Era Might' date='27 November 2009 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1259299347' post='2010081'] Politics turned me into a newt! [/quote] A [i]newt[/i]? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Gingrich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 there are far too many people for me to tell the shut up. SHUT UP ALL OF YOU! politics r stupid! lol this was an awesome old school (2004) phatmass thread that got ruined by anarchists. but at least I have the right to tell people to shut up in it. shut up, stern. shut up, notardillacid (and if you'd just accept my credit card through paypal i'd have been able to pay you a long time ago) shut up, all! mwahahaha -King Aloysius I of Athanasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 ...and politics stole my bible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 [img]http://anti-politics.ws/votefornobody.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 [quote name='Luthien' date='06 June 2004 - 03:41 PM' timestamp='1086554511' post='211378'] LOL Hilarious... Yeah, Im just going to live in a hole somewheres in the wilderness....forget goverment... [/quote] A tipi wouldn't be too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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