IcePrincessKRS Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What is this thread about again ? I kind of asked the o.p with my original post without a response and though he or she may have missed it no one else clarified. Reading the thread, even just the last 5 pages or so would really help you with that. I haven't been very active in the discussion, largely because I don't have any pressing questions for Franny. Reading the posts I am learning more what she appreciates, thinks, and feels (and I like to think that I already know those things fairly well, so that I'm learning more speaks volumes as to the importance of actually reading what is written here by her and others). To me the heart of the discussion is about how to treat people, especially gay people with love, respect, and dignity that is due them as children of God (that doesn't mean agree with every thought, action, or belief, either, there is room for disagreement still met with love and respect). Franny has given specific examples of things that she has been appreciative of and things that have hurt her. This discussion is the story of a soul, a human being, NOT an agenda. To reduce her (or any gay person) to an agenda is simply disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 So this is a girls club get to know franny thing? I'm going to get my dictionary though. gay adj 1. homosexual. 2. carefree and merry. 3. colorful n 4. homosexual gayness n homosexuality. Which meaning of gay are we talking about? or all of the above. Or are we talking real old meaning of Gay as being overtly proud i think, or are we talking street slang as in lame or totally random. Just on the Gay word. But i understand everything you said KRS i just need to know which Gay is Fransiscan heart, which i kind of already asked clarification upon. Or is this a girls only thing, which i also respect and can easily disengage from this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I'm gay sometimes too. I like to dress colourfully and sometimes i'm carefree and merry. :) DO you like to dress colourfully fransiscan heart ? Edited February 25, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie-Therese Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'm gay sometimes too. I like to dress colourfully and sometimes i'm carefree and merry. :) DO you like to dress colourfully fransiscan heart ? Please, for the love of God, stop talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It's REALLY tough. Because when you connect in a certain way with people of the same sex, there is always a check-in process that's happening inside me to make sure I'm not setting myself (or anyone else, for that matter) up for pain. I've been in love before. It wasn't easy. There is potential for falling in love again. Resisting that has not been easy. I don't imagine it ever will be. That's tough. And it creates a lot of tension across the board. I think I've heard sentiments like this expressed by other gay people, I've never heard it from a straight person, nor have I experienced it - and as a straight guy who was discerning the priesthood I certainly have been in a position where I might be attracted to someone, but in no position to act on it, yet I've never experienced or viewed attraction this way - ie. I've never viewed love or crushes as something that could cause pain without first having an actual relationship - and I don't mean friendship, I mean relationship. I've had some very close female friendships, right or wrong, and I couldn't see it becoming traumatic if one party was attracted without the feelings being reciprocated. Is this something that you see more in gay people or is this maybe you've seen this "vulnerability" in straight people as well and I just haven't seen it on account of my personality and those I will tend to be friends with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 If you understood what Icey said, you wouldn't be this dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 How in the world have you people been on phatmass this long and still don't know better than not to let Tab'le get to you? If you've never read his posts before, then just keep not reading his posts. If you have read his posts before, then how in the world are you surprised and letting it bother you - and replying to it? Tab'le is Tab'le. Don't try to understand him, just let him be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie-Therese Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) How in the world have you people been on phatmass this long and still don't know better than not to let Tab'le get to you? If you've never read his posts before, then just keep not reading his posts. If you have read his posts before, then how in the world are you surprised and letting it bother you - and replying to it? Tab'le is Tab'le. Don't try to understand him, just let him be. I've been here a long time, and I'm quite familiar with his posting habits; that being said, I find it irritating, disrespectful, and downright uncharitable to be acting the fool in a thread where a person is attempting to reach out on such a serious topic. Frankly, Tab needs a little fraternal correction. Being obtuse is one thing...being an arse portal is something else entirely. Edited February 25, 2014 by Marie-Therese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bus Station Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I've been here a long time, and I'm quite familiar with his posting habits; that being said, I find it irritating, disrespectful, and downright uncharitable to be acting the fool in a thread where a person is attempting to reach out on such a serious topic. Frankly, Tab needs a little fraternal correction. Being obtuse is one thing...being an arse portal is something else entirely. Props for "arse portal," tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Please, for the love of God, stop talking. What's your problem. Am i not Gay enough for you? Sounds kinda of counter productive to the spirit of the thread which as far as i've been lead to believe is something like acceptance and even love of other peoples differences. Again, FH " Do you like to dress colourfully? " I'm not mocking or being sarcastic this is an actual question for FH in the spirit of the o.p of asking her questions. Edited February 25, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Notre, I think in some ways the difference can be in terms of actual reciprocated love that can't be acted upon, rather than merely a crush on someone and it goes away because they don't share the same feelings. Basically like if your friendships with girls where you might've had a crush on them actually had a crush on you also, then it's much harder to let go than if you're just friendzoned and have to deal with it because they're not interested in you. when both people fall in love with each other but it's cut off, that's a recipe for pain as much as if you had had a relationship and broken up. If that makes any sense. (not meaning to steal franny's thread here just sharing my own personal insight into the matter, I'm sure she'll have something to say in answer as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) How in the world have you people been on phatmass this long and still don't know better than not to let Tab'le get to you? If you've never read his posts before, then just keep not reading his posts. If you have read his posts before, then how in the world are you surprised and letting it bother you - and replying to it? Tab'le is Tab'le. Don't try to understand him, just let him be. Dude if anyone would actually take the time to have a discussion with me you may actually understand me better, but go on your merry gay way and don't watch out for the ants that you tread upon. I have had very few discussions here, i make statements in the hope of discussing further and perhaps you all take those statements as final or something, well there not, there fish bait for discussion. DON'T TREAD ON ME.RESPECT. ( and if you don't truly know the meaning of respect check your dictionaries to remind yourselves.) Edited February 25, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 and by the way you don't know me notre, we have hardly but had 1 very brief discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Dude if anyone would actually take the time to have a discussion with me you may actually understand me better, but go on your merry gay way and don't watch out for the ants that you tread upon. I have had very few discussions here, i make statements in the hope of discussing further and perhaps you all take those statements as final or something, well there not, there fish bait for discussion. DON'T TREAD ON ME.RESPECT. ( and if you don't truly know the meaning of respect check your dictionaries to remind yourselves.) Your question should (And most likely will) be disregarded, because this is a very serious discussion, and your question is stereotypical and non-serious. Dressing colorfully doesn't make you gay, it means you like color. Whether FranciscanHeart does like dressing colorfully or not means nothing, because it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread or being gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 So this is a girls club get to know franny thing? I'm going to get my dictionary though. gay adj 1. homosexual. 2. carefree and merry. 3. colorful n 4. homosexual gayness n homosexuality. Which meaning of gay are we talking about? or all of the above. Or are we talking real old meaning of Gay as being overtly proud i think, or are we talking street slang as in lame or totally random. Just on the Gay word. But i understand everything you said KRS i just need to know which Gay is Fransiscan heart, which i kind of already asked clarification upon. Or is this a girls only thing, which i also respect and can easily disengage from this discussion. Again, this is where reading the posts in this thread would be extremely helpful. Franny has made it abundantly clear that when she says "I am gay" she means that she is a homosexual woman. She has also stated several times over that she is chaste. So, back to my other point, it's not about some homosexual agenda, it's about how to approach people with love and kindness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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