PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Did anyone watch that painful debate? Bill Nye kept using science and fact, and he would ask Ken Ham a question, and he would reply with a quote from the Bible. That didn't impress atheists, and it didn't impress me. For those who didn't watch, this quote sums up the entire debate: http://imgur.com/T7Zz0R2 Bill Nye was the open person, and Ken Ham was the closed-minded one. It drives me nuts that Ken Ham represented religion in this debate, because he has such a distorted and twisted view of it. Edited February 5, 2014 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Guys like Bill Nye will only debate guys like Ken Ham. The respectable skeptics of the 20th century are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentJoy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Dr. Stephen Meyer might have been a better choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Guys like Bill Nye will only debate guys like Ken Ham. The respectable skeptics of the 20th century are gone. I highly respect Bill Nye. He was very charitable to Ken Ham the entire time, which is something I myself would have struggled with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have the youtube video link and I will be watching the debate asap. Im very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I highly respect Bill Nye. He was very charitable to Ken Ham the entire time, which is something I myself would have struggled with. You schedule an idiot and even a lightweight like Bill Nye can come off as not only wise, but kind and charitable as well. That's the whole point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have the youtube video link and I will be watching the debate asap. Im very excited. Put a pillow on your desk so it doesn't hurt so much when you start slamming your head. Other than that, it is very enjoyable, and you learn so much from it. You schedule an idiot and even a lightweight like Bill Nye can come off as not only wise, but kind and charitable as well. That's the whole point. Ken Ham invited Bill Nye, not the other way around. If you want to call Bill Nye an idiot, that's fine, but keep in mind he is a very accomplished scientist and has more years of experience than you and I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 You schedule an idiot and even a lightweight like Bill Nye can come off as not only wise, but kind and charitable as well. That's the whole point. One question: Do you hold creationism as a scientific fact? Do you agree with Ken Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ken Ham invited Bill Nye, not the other way around. Sometimes protestants are so embarrassing... this is one of those times. If you want to call Bill Nye an idiot, that's fine, but keep in mind he is a very accomplished scientist and has more years of experience than you and I do. Actually, Bill Nye has the same level of science education as me (though he got it with an easier degree than mine), but it appears I have more industry experience than he does (not counting the bureaucratic committee work he does.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 One question: Do you hold creationism as a scientific fact? Do you agree with Ken Ham? I just called Ken Ham an idiot. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I just called Ken Ham an idiot. What do you think? You called Bill Nye an idiot. I don't see where you called Ken Ham an idiot. However, I'd rather you not call either of them idiots. That is highly uncharitable. Both are scientists and know a lot about science. One has a distorted view of science, and one doesn't believe in God, but that doesn't make either of them idiots, it means they don't have a full understanding of faith and science. Having a misunderstanding about something doesn't make you an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) You called Bill Nye an idiot. I don't see where you called Ken Ham an idiot. However, I'd rather you not call either of them idiots. That is highly uncharitable. Both are scientists and know a lot about science. One has a distorted view of science, and one doesn't believe in God, but that doesn't make either of them idiots, it means they don't have a full understanding of faith and science. Having a misunderstanding about something doesn't make you an idiot. You parsed the sentence incorrectly. It tripped me up a bit too; it might have benefited from an extra comma. Edited February 5, 2014 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 You parsed the sentence incorrectly. It tripped me up a bit too; it might have benefited from an extra comma. Show me, O Wise One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You schedule an idiot and even a lightweight like Bill Nye can come off as not only wise, but kind and charitable as well. That's the whole point. There is not a missing comma. It's very clear I'm comparing Ken Ham to an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You schedule an idiot and even a lightweight like Bill Nye can come off as not only wise, but kind and charitable as well. That's the whole point. 个 Read it like this: [If] You schedule [Ham, who is] an idiot, [then] even a lightweight [...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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