Maggyie Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To be honest I consider almost all Catholic colleges to be major rip-offs including UD. But that opinion is formed from years of observing the very small and in some cases negative return on investment from these schools. I don't mean to pee on the thread but I feel this perspective is warranted. Again you're doing it 75% right going to junior college first. But basically I would only recc FUS as a first choice to someone who has a hard time dealing with secular college culture and needs a lot of peer and environmental support. It is really good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 But ps I will stop making negative posts! No need to pinch me lillla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To be honest I consider almost all Catholic colleges to be major rip-offs including UD. But that opinion is formed from years of observing the very small and in some cases negative return on investment from these schools. I don't mean to pee on the thread but I feel this perspective is warranted. Again you're doing it 75% right going to junior college first. But basically I would only recc FUS as a first choice to someone who has a hard time dealing with secular college culture and needs a lot of peer and environmental support. It is really good for that. But sometimes I wish I would have stayed and gotten a traditional classical education. Where else you going to get that if not at one of these catholic schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 To be honest I consider almost all Catholic colleges to be major rip-offs including UD. But that opinion is formed from years of observing the very small and in some cases negative return on investment from these schools. I don't mean to pee on the thread but I feel this perspective is warranted. Again you're doing it 75% right going to junior college first. But basically I would only recc FUS as a first choice to someone who has a hard time dealing with secular college culture and needs a lot of peer and environmental support. It is really good for that. I'm not completely sold on going to community college first, yet. I'm still conflicted on that point. I have, however, thankfully narrowed down my college choices to just Benedictine and Franciscan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Franciscan does have more popular authors, but I'm pretty sure UD is academically superior (there is a difference) and is in every way orthodox. Plus it's closer, it's in TX, it's warmer... You can rule it out, but more options won't hurt you, they can only help you. This is true. Scott Hahn is a great spiritual writer and wildly popular, but he's kinda average when it comes to his specific field. Nothing special. Look, it really depends on what kind of college experience you want, and the terrible thing is that you aren't really going to know what kind of experience you're going to get until you're done with it. That's the way the game works. Looking back? I'd probably go to Mount St. Mary's all over again. It was the right fit for me, and I was able to do it with minimal debt. I wouldn't recommend anyone go into major debt to go to a private, Catholic, liberal arts school. Not in this economy. What do you want to major in? Do you know? Which school offers you the best opportunities to do the things you think you might want to do? I seriously considered going to FUS, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to major in theology, and really the only other good program was nursing, and I wasn't interested in that. I chose Mount St. Mary's because it had a couple of strong majors that I was interested in, so I felt it offered me the best chance of success. Unless you know for sure you're going to major in theology and want to work in ministry for most of the rest of your life, I'd go with Benedictine. Unless money played a big factor in the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 If you want lots of smokers, go to UD where they recently had a smoke out to protest a possible smoking ban. #gocrusaders UD is actually a great school though. But this isn't about UD. Really?! That's AMESOME! I went to UD, but never had a problem with the smokers. It was part of our character, somehow. For the record, I've never smoked a cigarette. Hey guys, could we possibly stay more on-topic? This thread isn't about "Ring before Spring" colleges, smoking, or whatever UD is. Every topic is about UD :| Honestly, I kind of have my heart set on either Franciscan or Benedictine. I don't think University of Dallas could really compete. I was dead set on Fransiscan when applying for schools. Benedictine was even higher in my ranking than UD. I am so thankful I did not choose either of them. I am sure they would have been great, but I FIT at UD. You gotta go where you fit, man, and I do think you'd fit better at FUS or BU. But if you wanna know more about UD, let me know. ;) #gocrusaders I love you. Franciscan does have more popular authors, but I'm pretty sure UD is academically superior (there is a difference) and is in every way orthodox. Plus it's closer, it's in TX, it's warmer... You can rule it out, but more options won't hurt you, they can only help you. Yup. Iawtc. Sorry you didn't like UD, man. My mom would chose Benedictine and Franciscan over the University of Dallas. Then again, she isn't a huge fan of Texas. And looking at the faculty doesn't make it seem objectively more rigorous. All I see are names of professors I've never heard of before. My mom practically made me choose UD. She was completely against Fransiscan. To each his own, I guess. Something to consider though, is that college is about preparing you for the rest of your life. What do you want out of these four years that will perhaps be the most formative of your adult life? I went with a rigorous catechesis and firm grounding in the school of "how to think for yourself" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 DTA went to UD. ISNT THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 DTA went to UD. ISNT THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Yes. Edited February 4, 2014 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yup. Iawtc. Sorry you didn't like UD, man. I did like UD, it just wasn't the right place for me to be at that point in time. I actually went back for some classes later when working in Dallas and have always wished the circumstances were different. One point here about going to JC's for two years first. I'd check with the school and make sure they are onboard with this. Many of these schools are very big on their core classes and since they are usually classical subjects and texts you can't always find their equivalent at a JC, nor will a JC have you prepared for their upper-level courses. I know this is the case for UD and for some other classical liberal arts programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Franciscan does not really have renowned theology program... Not academically anyway. Renowned for its orthodoxy and renowned for the celebrities who teach there, but not for its rigor. Unfortunately Franciscan grads can run into trouble if they plan to continue advanced degrees in theology ( again , unless things have changed big time in the last 5 years). Very bright going to community college first. That will really control costs. I have never heard this, but then again, I'm only a sophomore (by year, senior by credit). This is disturbing to me, as I'm looking to get my doctorate in Theology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have never heard this, but then again, I'm only a sophomore (by year, senior by credit). This is disturbing to me, as I'm looking to get my doctorate in Theology. I looked it up, and it seems the claim was unfounded. Don't worry about it. A person I know said many of her friends went to Franciscan and majored in theology, went on to graduate school, and did just as fine as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I looked it up, and it seems the claim was unfounded. Don't worry about it. A person I know said many of her friends went to Franciscan and majored in theology, went on to graduate school, and did just as fine as anyone else. The guy I'm looking to intern with next semester graduated from Franciscan and has a PhD in Systematic Theology. I trust him. Yay. Thanks FP and Dr. Sirilla! Side note: DtA... weren't you the one who entered a convent? Or am I thinking of another Phatmasser? I don't wanna derail the thread, so you don't have to explain or anything... just let me know if I'm crazy or not, lol. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 The guy I'm looking to intern with next semester graduated from Franciscan and has a PhD in Systematic Theology. I trust him. Yay. Thanks FP and Dr. Sirilla! Side note: DtA... weren't you the one who entered a convent? Or am I thinking of another Phatmasser? I don't wanna derail the thread, so you don't have to explain or anything... just let me know if I'm crazy or not, lol. :P No one studies under Scott Hahn and struggles with theology. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 No one studies under Scott Hahn and struggles with theology. ;) He's crazy busy and a Biblical scholar, while I'm looking into Systematic Theology. :) So Dr. Sirilla or some other professor in a similar area is someone I'd go to first. Plus there are like 57 million professors here that I absolutely LOVE, none of which are Dr. Hahn. I've never taken a class with him, so I can't really say what I think of him. But there are some AH-MAY-ZING dudes here, forreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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