U.s. To Seek Death Penalty In Boston Bombing Case

[arfink]

As probably the only person on phatmass who has spent time on three different death rows and to have witnessed a lethal injection execution I have a few observations.

I never met a man on death row who was both sane and sober when committing their crime. Insane and incompetent to stand trial or be executed are two vastly different things.

What my mind focuses on when thinking about this attack is that these were really athletic people, close to finishing a 26 mile long run, who had their legs blown off. There is something so surreal about that. I am familiar with the feeling that accompanies going from fit one day to disabled the next.

I'm an opponent to the death penalty. I understand why people want it though. If we are going to do it, we really need to change how we choose who faces it, and how we do it.

 

A fantastic and on-topic response from someone eminently qualified to form an educated opinion, most excellent. :)

 

I love how it got ignored by everyone else. /sarcasm

Edited February 5, 2014 by arfink

[NotreDame]

It's ok me and my brothers will continue to pay your share for freedom.

Freedom that has been negatively correlated to any efforts in Afghanistan, so you guys haven't been paying for anything lately.

 

I generally don't really care about it until you start dealing with the "baby killer" hippies or the smug rich upper class. America's military is built on the backs of young kids who are willing to sacrifice daily. I'm not one to go around playing Toby Keith songs but I'm not going to give someone who says we are "killing brown people" a free pass.

But you are killing brown people, brown muslim people, while calling other people racist.  Irony.

 

I believe I'm doing my job nothing more nothing less. Politics goes out on the window in a two way gunfight.

A gunfight you knowingly signed up for, unless you enlisted over 13 years ago, which I doubt, so it's a job you chose... hence, you can't play that "just doing my job" card.

Edited February 5, 2014 by NotreDame

[Lilllabettt]

It's ok me and my brothers will continue to pay your share for freedom.

 

'Merica.

 

to quote you.

[Semper Catholic]

Freedom that has been negatively correlated to any efforts in Afghanistan, so you guys haven't been paying for anything lately.

But you are killing brown people, brown muslim people, while calling other people racist. Irony.

A gunfight you knowingly signed up for, unless you enlisted over 13 years ago, which I doubt, so it's a job you chose... hence, you can't play that "just doing my job" card.

K

[Lilllabettt]

'Merica.

 

to quote you.

 

i should point out that i agree with the sentiment SC ... i am just pointing out that your position on this kind of stuff has been schizophrenic

[Maggyie]

Freedom that has been negatively correlated to any efforts in Afghanistan, so you guys haven't been paying for anything lately.

 

But you are killing brown people, brown muslim people, while calling other people racist.  Irony.

 

A gunfight you knowingly signed up for, unless you enlisted over 13 years ago, which I doubt, so it's a job you chose... hence, you can't play that "just doing my job" card.

 

You are truly unbelievable. You don't know who (or if anyone) SC has killed or has not killed. Is it more possible he has helped built schools or hospitals for the "brown people. You should be ashamed of yourself for getting that personal.

 

I'm positive you don't talk this way in public because if you did you would be shunned. It's easy to be a "subversive" tough guy on the internet eh.

 

- Proud supporter of the "brown baby killers" responsible for your security.

[NotreDame]

i should point out that i agree with the sentiment SC ... i am just pointing out that your position on this kind of stuff has been schizophrenic

 

ditto here.
 

[Maggyie]

never mind. do not want to get into a fight. I'm just disgusted.

Edited February 5, 2014 by Maggie

[Ed Normile]

I do not believe the death penalty should be on the table when we have the means to remove a terrorist killer like this from society forever. I would incarcerate him permanently allowing him the basics such as food and an hour a day of sunlight, more humane than what he did to the people he killed and maimed. Then again I have to wonder if the decision of those in charge would follow under the heading of " give unto Caeser what is Caeser's " ?

 

ed

[NotreDame]

You are truly unbelievable. You don't know who (or if anyone) SC has killed or has not killed. Is it more possible he has helped built schools or hospitals for the "brown people. You should be ashamed of yourself for getting that personal.

 

I'm positive you don't talk this way in public because if you did you would be shunned. It's easy to be a "subversive" tough guy on the internet eh.

 

- Proud supporter of the "brown baby killers" responsible for your security.

 

SC is a marine in afghanistan, so he is at least tangentially involved in killing poor brown people.

 

I'm not ashamed for getting personal with someone who got personal with me first.  Of course this wouldn't happen in public, because he wouldn't be so uncouth as to call me racist in public.

 

The other positions you attribute to me are not opinions I hold. 
 

[Ed Normile]

SC is a marine in afghanistan, so he is at least tangentially involved in killing poor brown people.

 

 

 

So following this line of thought I assume all NATO forces deployed in Afghanistan are "tangenitally" involved in killing poor brown people too ? I wonder as there are quite a few countries that have troops deployed there, and probably a few brown people deployed there too. The actual poor brown people are getting aid, where the terrorists are the ones being fought against, the same ones who also kill poor brown people while stealing the very food and medical supplies delivered for the poor, and in many cases forcing their children to fight.

 

ed

[Nihil Obstat]

I believe I'm doing my job nothing more nothing less. Politics goes out on the window in a two way gunfight.

 

 

Thanks for the candor.

 

 

So I was limiting myself to short replies here because I was at work. This is what has been on my mind.

 

I do not really care about politics. These days I would rather just leave politics out of everything. What I care about is morality. 

What do you think of the overall morality of what you do? Would it be fair, or unfair to say that you do not really care about the morality of your job? Would you disobey a direct order to do something that you thought was immoral? Are you ever ordered to do things you think are immoral? Or anyone you know?

What about 'the job' as a whole, in a wider context? Do you think that the whole situation you find yourself in is a moral one, or immoral, or does it not matter to you one way or the other? Did you sign up considering it to be a moral undertaking? Is there some line in the sand, some point at which you would feel compelled to object in some way?

 

These are honest questions. I am not interested in flamebait for the sake of making a point. I would like to know what you think about this stuff. 

[4588686]

SC is a marine in afghanistan, so he is at least tangentially involved in killing poor brown people.

 

I'm not ashamed for getting personal with someone who got personal with me first.  Of course this wouldn't happen in public, because he wouldn't be so uncouth as to call me racist in public.

 

The other positions you attribute to me are not opinions I hold. 
 

 

 

I've been tangentially involved with your mom.  

[NotreDame]

I've been tangentially involved with your mom.  

 

But you would say anything to associate yourself with my gene pool.
 

[Semper Catholic]

So I was limiting myself to short replies here because I was at work. This is what has been on my mind.

I do not really care about politics. These days I would rather just leave politics out of everything. What I care about is morality.
What do you think of the overall morality of what you do? Would it be fair, or unfair to say that you do not really care about the morality of your job? Would you disobey a direct order to do something that you thought was immoral? Are you ever ordered to do things you think are immoral? Or anyone you know?
What about 'the job' as a whole, in a wider context? Do you think that the whole situation you find yourself in is a moral one, or immoral, or does it not matter to you one way or the other? Did you sign up considering it to be a moral undertaking? Is there some line in the sand, some point at which you would feel compelled to object in some way?

These are honest questions. I am not interested in flamebait for the sake of making a point. I would like to know what you think about this stuff.

I am not a "holy warrior" as some of our more religious military are referred to as. I joined to challenge myself and do something that I thought was meaningful. Now my job is more about taking care of those same kids who were once like me.

If people join for the wrong reasons it generally does not go well for them. The job (combat arms) is much to stressful and daunting if your heart is not in it.

As far as morality goes military laws and regulations make 99% of the decisions for you. There's no hidden agenda. The wars might be fruitless mostly due to the political/social/economic way of life over there but we never did anything where my morality was questioned.