Stop Crying Rape

[Archaeology cat]

I have to ask, what's to say the woman's retraction was the truth instead of the original report made?

[Archaeology cat]

To clarify the above, given that women who come forward with rape allegations are often not believed, feel great shame, etc, and given that conviction is rare and that it is traumatic to be on the stand, I can easily see how a woman would report a rape, and then later feel she can't go through all that and react it, even though the rape did occur. I have no numbers for that, but it seems rather plausible to me.

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gggg

[PhuturePriest]

To clarify the above, given that women who come forward with rape allegations are often not believed, feel great shame, etc, and given that conviction is rare and that it is traumatic to be on the stand, I can easily see how a woman would report a rape, and then later feel she can't go through all that and react it, even though the rape did occur. I have no numbers for that, but it seems rather plausible to me.

 

I can definitely see this as a possibility, and I'd be willing to bet it's happened more than once.

[Semper Catholic]

False Rape Allegations

Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D.

http://sf-criminaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf


A pretty interesting article reporting on the incidence of false rape allegations over a 9 year period in a small metropolitan community. Of 109 forced rape allegations (i.e. the woman claims to have actually been raped and not merely an attempt) 45 were false reportedly, which amounts to 41% false allegations. The sole determinant of what rendered a report false was the woman's own testimony, in other words, during investigation she admitted that the report she made was false (note, this does not include allegations of rape where the man was later acquitted despite the woman holding on to her testimony.) Of these false reports, the major functions seemed to be to provide either an alibi, seek revenge, or obtain sympathy. The author admits it's challenging to extrapolate this data to other areas, and reports some years false allegations were as low as 20% and others as high as 70%. What is of reasonable certainty is that in this small metro community, at least 41% of rape allegations were falsely made.

It's regurgitated information like this that is both extremely harmful and and abhorrent to rape survivors and the attempts to combat these issues.

The researcher himself recanted these findings due to issues regarding the "subjects" of the study I.e. The police hooked up rape victims to polygraph and then grilled them on the events of the case.

Equally damaging and dangerous.

[Lil Red]

This is a really great article about cops not believing rape victims.... http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/06/why_cops_don_t_believe_rape_victims_and_how_brain_science_can_solve_the.html (I'm just pasting a few paragraphs here from the article)

 

Tremblay felt sex assault victims were telling the truth, and data supports his instincts: Only an estimated 2 to 8 percent of rape accusations are false, according to a survey of the literature published by the National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women. Tremblay also knew the victims felt as if they were being treated like suspects, and it affected the choices they made. Surveyed about why they didn’t want to pursue a report, most victims said they worried that no one would believe them.

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In the past decade, neurobiology has evolved to explain why victims respond in ways that make it seem like they could be lying, even when they’re not. Using imaging technology, scientists can identify which parts of the brain are activated when a person contemplates a traumatic memory such as sexual assault. The brain’s prefrontal cortex—which is key to decision-making and memory—often becomes temporarily impaired. The amygdala, known to encode emotional experiences, begins to dominate, triggering the release of stress hormones and helping to record particular fragments of sensory information. Victims can also experience tonic immobility—a sensation of being frozen in place—or a dissociative state. These types of withdrawal result from extreme fear yet often make it appear as if the victim did not resist the assault.

This is why, experts say, sexual assault victims often can’t give a linear account of an attack and instead focus on visceral sensory details like the smell of cologne or the sound of voices in the hallway. “That’s simply because their brain has encoded it in this fragmented way,” says David Lisak, a clinical psychologist and forensic consultant who trains civilian and military law enforcement to understand victim and offender behavior.

 

[mortify ii]

It's regurgitated information like this that is both extremely harmful and and abhorrent to rape survivors and the attempts to combat these issues.

The researcher himself recanted these findings due to issues regarding the "subjects" of the study I.e. The police hooked up rape victims to polygraph and then grilled them on the events of the case.

Equally damaging and dangerous.

Rape is a horrific crime, but what disturbs me is the inability to accept that some people are falsely accused, and what's worse is that they are not entitled to due process. Sorry friend but if you are accused in a college setting, and you are a male, your college career is over. Just google the numerous cases of men being accused and what happened to them.

If you want to suggest the women who admitted to falsifying rape did so out of duress then bring your evidence. The fact is that these women explained why they lied. The most common reason is as a allubi against pregnancyand secondly as revenge. I suggest you read the article because roughly similar statistics were repeated in other studies.

[Semper Catholic]

Rape is a horrific crime, but what disturbs me is the inability to accept that some people are falsely accused, and what's worse is that they are not entitled to due process. Sorry friend but if you are accused in a college setting, and you are a male, your college career is over. Just google the numerous cases of men being accused and what happened to them.

If you want to suggest the women who admitted to falsifying rape did so out of duress then bring your evidence. The fact is that these women explained why they lied. The most common reason is as a allubi against pregnancyand secondly as revenge. I suggest you read the article because roughly similar statistics were repeated in other studies.

Yes in these trying times we need to think of the rapists. There lives are ruined by these harlots who were clearly asking for it. Hell, look at James Winston, he didn't win the heisman or the national championship. And his victim wasn't forced to watch the DA yuck it up at the press conference. Oh wait none of that's true.

Gee, I've never seen any studies done on falsely accused burglaries or assaults. Maybe it's because rich white men don't commit such crimes, so further investigation is not deemed important.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Yes in these trying times we need to think of the rapists. There lives are ruined by these harlots who were clearly asking for it. Hell, look at James Winston, he didn't win the heisman or the national championship. And his victim wasn't forced to watch the DA yuck it up at the press conference. Oh wait none of that's true.

Gee, I've never seen any studies done on falsely accused burglaries or assaults. Maybe it's because rich white men don't commit such crimes, so further investigation is not deemed important.

 

 

Sarcasm and mockery will get you no where, it only agitates people usually or is this your intention? This is no joke.  :)

Edited January 18, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[fides' Jack]

"Victim-blaming" is rampant when it comes to vandalism and theft.

 

for instance:

 

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/12/19/police-warn-homeowners-to-avoid-christmas-crime/

 

less explicitly:

 

http://riskmanagement.nd.edu/international-travel/international-travel/safety/do-and-don-t-do-while-travelling/

 

Meanwhile a loved one recently had her purse stolen, with a laptop and cash inside. Everyone she came forward to, including the police and her supervisors (work documents were inside the stolen item) chastised her for leaving the item unattended for five minutes, and made no concerted effort to identify and prosecute the criminal.

 

Consider that too anecdotal if you want, but your double standard doesn't really exist.

 

You can get a purse that holds a laptop???
 

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

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Edited January 20, 2014 by FutureCarmeliteClaire

[Slappo]

Yes in these trying times we need to think of the rapists. 

Except mortify isn't talking about rapists.

[PhuturePriest]

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Profound. Poetical like Shakespeare, and yet logical and philosophical like Aristotle.

 

;)

[Nihil Obstat]

Profound. Poetical like Shakespeare, and yet logical and philosophical like Aristotle.

 

;)

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As opposed to that tortured train-wreck of a thought.

[PhuturePriest]

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As opposed to that tortured train-wreck of a thought.

 

You're just jealous that you aren't poetic and philosophical.